Say More

By Eleanor Turner & Isabelle Steichen

Say More is a podcast that delves into the 'why' behind successful entrepreneurs and creators. We believe true success stems from aligning personal passion, skills, and goals with your business, not j... more

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November 19, 2025 The Soul of Simplicity | Jenné Claiborne on Food, Family & Finding Her Path
In this radiant and deeply personal episode, we sit down with chef, author, entrepreneur, and wellness advocate Jenné Claiborne to explore the journey behind her plant-based empire and the inner work that fuels it.
From childhood memories in her nana’s kitchen to launching a blog “just for fun” that transformed her life, Jenné shares how curiosity, creativity, and purpose led her back to vegan food. We talk about the moment she realized she wanted more out of life and the questions she asked herself to get there.
She opens up about:
Raising her vibration, listening to her downloads and living in abundance; what that really means, and how it shows up daily
Her hustle to start her private cheffing business along with her blog and YouTube channel and what kept her sticking to it to become the number 1 vegan chef in NYC
How she manages her ambition with the desire to work less & smarter today
Her relationship to spirituality and how veganism forces you to go against the grain
Building a business as a woman of color, navigating criticism, and staying grounded
Motherhood, single parenting, and raising a vegan daughter with intention and joy
How it’s become easier for her to enjoy the journey versus thinking about the end goal
Follow Jenné:
YouTube: / @sweetpotatosoul
Instagram: / sweetpotatosoul
Blog: https://sweetpotatosoul.com/
Books’s Jenné likes:
Kathy Freston’s Veganist
Michael Singer’s Untethered Soul
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1h 20min
November 04, 2025 From Netflix's Snack vs. Chef to S’noods | Lauryn Bodden on Building Confidence & Community
In this episode, we sit down with Lauryn Bodden: athlete, chef, Netflix cooking show champion, and founder of Snoods, the noodle snack brand redefining comfort food. Lauryn’s path is anything but linear: from playing competitive soccer and studying sport management to working across every corner of the food world including private cheffing, editorial, restaurants, and reality TV.
We talk about:
Her early love of sports and what teamwork taught her about leadership
Her obsession with food: where it started, and how it’s evolved
The highs and lows of restaurant life, and what she still carries from that chapter
The wild story behind Snack vs. Chef and how she went from judge applicant to contestant, and ultimately, winner
The birth of Snoods: the aha moment, the product insight, and how she’s channeling her superpowers into building a brand
What it’s really like to be a CPG founder: favorite parts, hardest parts, and whether it still feeds her passion for food
Navigating a tough business partner breakup and the lessons she’s taking forward
Imposter syndrome, identity, and the quiet work of believing in yourself
This one’s for anyone who’s ever pivoted hard, followed their gut, or built something from scratch. Lauryn brings warmth, honesty, and a whole lot of flavor. Also, get 30% off your next Snoods order with code SAYMORE.

Links & Resources:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eatsnoods
Website: https://www.eatsnoods.com/
Sources:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vqhs2C7v1w
https://www.laurynbodden.com/about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM6H1seJ8j0

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October 17, 2025 From Condé Nast to Cannabis | Verena von Pfetten on Culture, Creativity & Copycats
In this episode, we sit down with Verena von Pfetten, co-founder of Gossamer, the trailblazing magazine and lifestyle brand for people who also smoke weed. Verena shares the story behind launching a brand in a taboo space, and how moments of joy, stillness, and intuition shaped her creative process.
We explore her journey from food media (co-founding The Braiser and writing for Condé Nast Traveler and HuffPost) to reimagining cannabis culture through design, storytelling, and spiritual practice. She opens up about her microdosing regimen, her views on plant medicine, and why she believes weed deserves a more nuanced narrative than the outdated “stoner” stereotype.
Verena also reflects on:
The moment Gossamer was born and why it felt like a risk worth taking
Her spiritual protocols and how meditation fuels creativity
The ups and downs of building a brand in a stigmatized category
Her thoughts on copycats and what it means to manifest with intention
A poetic reflection on Lopez Island, gnomes, and making things quietly and thoughtfully
Follow Verena on:
Instagram: / gossamer
Website: https://gossamer.co/
Book recs: Orbital by Samantha Harvey
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1h 18min
September 30, 2025Trading Fear for Faith | Vanessa Barboni Hallik on Building Another Tomorrow
This week, Isabelle and Eleanor sit down with Vanessa Barboni Hallik, founder of Another Tomorrow, for a candid conversation about leaving a high-powered finance career, navigating personal loss, and building a purpose-driven brand from the ground up. Vanessa shares how introspection, meditation, and a sabbatical led to the quiet birth of a company rooted in ethics and sustainability and why intention matters more than ever.
Topics we cover:
Quitting finance three times and why it was so hard to walk away

Growing up in a “hippie, techy, academic, and artistic” household in the Midwest

Her journey from ‘fear to faith’ through her journey as an entrepreneur

Losing her mother to suicide and the long arc of healing and reflection

The accidental birth of Another Tomorrow during a sabbatical

Building a gold-standard brand rooted in ethics, transparency, and sustainability

The power of intention and how Vanessa manifests her future
Book recommendations:
A Constellation of Vital Phenomena

Find Another Tomorrow/Vanessa:
Website - www.anothertomorrow.co
IG - https://www.instagram.com/anothertomo...

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September 16, 2025From Waldorf School to Startup | Michael Robinov on Food & Finding Purpose in the Story
In this episode of The Say More Podcast, co-hosts Eleanor Turner and Isabelle Steichen sit down with Michael Robinov, co-founder and CEO of Farm to People, a radically local food company reshaping how New Yorkers connect with farmers, chefs, and their own kitchens.
We explore:
The joyful spark behind Farm to People’s inception—and why creative ideas often emerge from moments of ease

What Waldorf education taught him about autonomy, imagination, and holistic thinking—and how it shaped his approach to business and life

Growing up in NYC, dropping out of Tisch, and trusting intuition over credentials

Why regenerative farming and local food systems aren’t just buzzwords—they’re central to Michael’s purpose

What it’s really like to build a business with your father and your partner (spoiler: it’s messy, meaningful, and deeply rewarding)

How customer feedback drives innovation—and why listening is Michael’s north star

The role travel played in launching FTP, and why it still fuels his creativity

Whether an IPO or a national expansion is on the horizon—and what’s next for Farm to People
Michael’s story is a reminder that purpose-driven business can be scrappy and wildly impactful.
Book/podcast recs:
Acquired: Deep dives into iconic companies that broke the mold—like Costco, Nike, and Berkshire Hathaway. Michael Robinov loves how it showcases businesses that were aberrations of their time, yet built on enduring principles.
Think Again by Adam Grant A guide to rethinking assumptions, embracing curiosity, and staying mentally flexible—especially relevant for leaders building adaptive, values-driven companies.

No Rules Rules by Reed Hastings & Erin Meyer A behind-the-scenes look at Netflix’s radical culture of freedom and responsibility. A masterclass in rejecting convention and scaling through trust and innovation.

No-Excuses Management by T.J. Rodgers A lesser-known but powerful book on building high-performance teams through clear targets, bonus structures, and metric-driven accountability. Rodgers’ approach blends hard business fundamentals with entrepreneurial grit.
Connect with Michael on Instagram
Follow FtP on Instagram and online
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1h 2min
September 05, 2025 How to Be an Owner, Not a Renter | Babba Rivera on Authenticity, Heritage & Bold Moves
In this episode of Say More, Eleanor and Isabelle sit down with Babba Rivera—founder of the award-winning clean hair care brand Ceremonia, former Uber exec, and a trailblazing Latina entrepreneur reshaping the beauty industry.
Babba shares her remarkable journey from growing up in Sweden’s immigrant neighborhoods to launching a purpose-driven brand rooted in heritage, wellness, and authenticity. This conversation is a masterclass in manifesting bold moves, dismantling limiting beliefs, and building businesses that reflect your highest values.
What we covered in this episode:
Growing up in Sweden with Chilean immigrant parents
How Babba navigated language barriers, cultural identity, and early ambition
Her leap from Uber Sweden to NYC—and the mindset behind big life decisions
The power of authenticity and how passion creates unexpected opportunities
Why generosity and helping others are central to her leadership philosophy
The insight that sparked Ceremonia: “Hair care” vs. styling products
Balancing motherhood and entrepreneurship with 4 kids
What success feels like now—and how it aligns with her values
Links & Resources
Ceremonia on IG and online – Babba’s clean hair care brand
https://www.instagram.com/myceremonia/?hl=en
Follow Babba on Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/babba/?hl=en
TV show rec: Common Side Effects
The Tao of Founders by Guillaume Racine
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August 19, 2025 Lorna Davis on Finding Purpose Beyond "More, More, More"
In this transformative episode, Lorna Davis—former CEO of Danone North America and trailblazer of the B Corp movement—invites us into a conversation about what it really means to lead, live, and grow through the lens of radical interdependence.
From her upbringing in South Africa to her global career across seven countries and five continents, Lorna shares why she believes that heroism is outdated—and that meaningful change depends on our willingness to rely on one another. This isn’t just about leadership. It’s about building lives, organizations, and societies that thrive on trust, empathy, and purpose.
TED Talk, A Guide to Collaborative Leadership: https://www.ted.com/speakers/lorna_davis
Books: It's That Simple, Mavis Karn; Raising Hare, Chloe Dalton; Memorial Day, Geraldine Brooks; Consolations, David White; Eckhart Tolle’s work
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1h 6min
July 31, 2025Jeni Britton on Creativity, Ownership, and Fiber
In this conversation, Eleanor and Isabelle sit down with Jeni Britton—entrepreneur, artist, and founder of the iconic Jeni’s Splendid Ice Cream and her new brand, Floura, which is the most diverse fiber bar on the market. Jeni shares her path from struggling art student to industry visionary, diving deep into the emotional and creative roots of her journey. From her early days running “Scream,” to building Jeni's into a national brand, to stepping away and starting over, this episode explores reinvention, curiosity, and the power of slowing down, synchronicity, and building businesses that reflect your soul.
In This Episode, They Cover:
Jeni’s unconventional childhood and how it shaped her boldness

Why she dropped out of college and knew she’d be her own boss

Creative burnout and knowing when to walk away

Lessons learned through failure—not success

Launching Floura and why she’s obsessed with fiber and food systems

How motherhood fits into the founder experience

Why she says Lord of the Rings is the best business book she's ever read

And why “creativity is finding efficiencies”—a mindset every founder needs
Resources Mentioned:
Floura: https://www.floura.com/

Jeni’s substack: https://substack.com/@jenibritton

Books Jeni likes: The Leaves of Grass by Walt Whitman,The Apothecary's Wife by Karen Bloom Gevirtz and The Mayflower by Nathaniel Philbrick

Instagram: @jenibrittonbauer
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1h 12min
February 20, 2025The Power of Timing, Luck, & Purpose with Zoe Paknad
Join us for an enlightening conversation with Zoe Paknad, the visionary founder of Goldune, as we delve into the world of sustainable retail. Discover Zoe's inspiring journey in creating a company that makes sustainability approachable and accessible. She shares the triumphs and challenges of her mission to transform consumer habits and offers insights into the future of eco-friendly products, and reveals what she’s up to today with First Rodeo and more!
Zoe’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zoe-paknad
Zoe’s substack First Rodeo: https://1strodeo.substack.com/

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1h 13min
January 30, 2025Altruism in Action with Eva Goicochea of Maude
Welcome to episode 5 of the Say More Podcast. Today, we have a very special guest with us, Eva Goicochea. Eva is the brilliant mind behind Maude, a modern sexual wellness company that’s redefining intimacy and self-care. With a background in healthcare and brand strategy, Eva has been a trailblazer in creating products that prioritize simplicity, quality, and inclusivity. In this episode, we dive deep into Eva’s background, and what led her to ultimately start Maude.
Maude website: https://getmaude.com/
Maude IG: https://www.instagram.com/getmaude/
Eva IG: https://www.instagram.com/evagoicochea/

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