Hi Smooches! On this episode, we’re chatting with boundary coach Kami Orange, author of the new book Say the Thing: Boundary-Setting Scripts and Phrases to Communicate Directly and Speak Up with Kindness. Meg and I have both separately followed Kami’s work and when we reached out to her for an interview were delighted to find out she’s a romance reader! So we talked a lot about how reading romance is fantastic for exploring boundary setting. We hope you have fun listening to this conversation, because we had a lot of fun having it.

Find Kami on TikTok at: https://www.tiktok.com/@kami_orange?_t=8kDrEfGaVf0&_r=1

Find links to Kami’s book and boundary flashcards here: https://kamiorangeinfo.com

Find us on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/makeoutalreadypod/?hl=en

Preorder Liz’s next book, IN ON THE ACTION: https://a.co/d/87RjuZC

Books we mentioned:

Say the Thing by Kami Orange

A Lady of Rooksgrave Manor by Kathryn Moon

Come Together by Emily Nagoski

Come As You Are by Emily Nagoski

Burnout by Emily and Amelia Nagoski

I Married a Lizardman by Regine Abel

Her Alien Priest by Michele Mills

Stalked by the Kraken by Lillian Lark

The Book Leo video on Tentacle Entanglement by Siggy Shade https://youtu.be/W03iZEfFkE4?si=dyg9Xqg0yqempNUl