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Scaling vs. Growing Your Business (EP#59)
Growing vs. scaling your business — What’s the fifference (and why it matters)
In this episode of Money Secrets, Fi tackles a question that comes up constantly in small business conversations — should you be growing your business, or scaling it?
These terms are often used interchangeably online, but they mean very different things. And misunderstanding the difference can lead to unrealistic expectations, cash flow stress, and chasing strategies that were never right for your business model in the first place.
Fi breaks down what scaling actually means, why not every business is built to scale, and how growth can be just as powerful — and far more sustainable — when done intentionally. She also explores how service-based businesses can introduce leveraged income streams without chasing the myth of “passive income.”
🎧 Tune in to learn how to make smarter decisions about revenue, profitability, and business structure — based on what your business is truly designed to do.
What you'll learn in this episode:
The real difference between growing and scaling a business
Why these concepts aren’t interchangeable — and why it matters which one you’re pursuing.
What “scaling” actually means in practice
How scalable businesses increase income without increasing costs, and why this usually applies to tech, digital products, and one-to-many offers.
Why most service businesses grow (not scale)
And why that’s not a failure — it’s simply a different financial model.
The myth of passive income
Why all income requires effort somewhere, and where the work actually sits in scalable businesses.
How growth impacts cash flow and expenses
Why growing revenue often means growing costs — and how poor expense control can sink otherwise healthy businesses.
Why agencies and service providers struggle to “scale”
And how chasing scalability can create unrealistic profit expectations.
How to add leveraged income inside a service business
Including group programs, digital products, licensing IP, referrals, and affiliate revenue.
What profit margins really look like
The difference between typical growth-based margins (10–25%) and scalable business margins (50%+).
How to choose the right strategy for your business
Based on your goals, values, capacity, and desired lifestyle — not internet hype.
💡 If this conversation resonates and you want hands-on support, you can work with Fi one-on-one or join Good Money Club, where small business owners learn how to make and manage money with clarity, confidence, and impact.
- Good Money Club (a few spots will open in 2026)
- Signature 1:1 Program (spaces available from Jan 2026 onwards)
- VIP Day (only one per month, these are powerful strategy sessions)
On-demand training is available any time:
Business Model Design | Good Money Challenge
________________________________________________________________________
We’ve come so far as a society in many ways, but money is one of the areas where progress hasn’t been enough. If we want to tip the scales in favour of marginalised people, it starts with understanding the secret: money in small business.
In this podcast, Money Secrets, host Fiona (Fi) Johnston, Chartered Accountant, small business advocate, and impact enthusiast, dives into the conversations we need to have about money. The secrets that once stayed behind closed doors (or on the golf course) are finally out in the open.
Fi’s mission? To get more money into the hands of good people, like you. She believes small businesses have the power to change the world, and the key to making a bigger impact is to make, and manage, more money.
________________________________________________________________________
Thank you to everyone involved for bringing this podcast together. We are excited to hear from you with any questions, feedback or suggestions for future episodes that you might have. Send a Direct Message to @peach.business
If you are excited for what’s to come, please like this episode, follow the podcast and share it with your friends. We are thrilled you're here.
👉 Try Rounded free for 30 days
The link is for users new to Rounded only and offers a free, unrestricted 30-day free trial of Rounded for users who pay tax in Australia or New Zealand. No credit card needed.
Check out my FREE Pricing Training you need to set your prices for profitability.
________________________________________________________________________
This podcast episode was recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri People of the Kulin Nation and I'd like to acknowledge them as the Traditional Owners and custodians of this land and water that I live, work and play on. I'd like to pay respect to elders both past and present, and note that sovereignty has never been ceded. This always was and always will be Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander land.
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By Fi JohnstonGrowing vs. scaling your business — What’s the fifference (and why it matters)
In this episode of Money Secrets, Fi tackles a question that comes up constantly in small business conversations — should you be growing your business, or scaling it?
These terms are often used interchangeably online, but they mean very different things. And misunderstanding the difference can lead to unrealistic expectations, cash flow stress, and chasing strategies that were never right for your business model in the first place.
Fi breaks down what scaling actually means, why not every business is built to scale, and how growth can be just as powerful — and far more sustainable — when done intentionally. She also explores how service-based businesses can introduce leveraged income streams without chasing the myth of “passive income.”
🎧 Tune in to learn how to make smarter decisions about revenue, profitability, and business structure — based on what your business is truly designed to do.
What you'll learn in this episode:
The real difference between growing and scaling a business
Why these concepts aren’t interchangeable — and why it matters which one you’re pursuing.
What “scaling” actually means in practice
How scalable businesses increase income without increasing costs, and why this usually applies to tech, digital products, and one-to-many offers.
Why most service businesses grow (not scale)
And why that’s not a failure — it’s simply a different financial model.
The myth of passive income
Why all income requires effort somewhere, and where the work actually sits in scalable businesses.
How growth impacts cash flow and expenses
Why growing revenue often means growing costs — and how poor expense control can sink otherwise healthy businesses.
Why agencies and service providers struggle to “scale”
And how chasing scalability can create unrealistic profit expectations.
How to add leveraged income inside a service business
Including group programs, digital products, licensing IP, referrals, and affiliate revenue.
What profit margins really look like
The difference between typical growth-based margins (10–25%) and scalable business margins (50%+).
How to choose the right strategy for your business
Based on your goals, values, capacity, and desired lifestyle — not internet hype.
💡 If this conversation resonates and you want hands-on support, you can work with Fi one-on-one or join Good Money Club, where small business owners learn how to make and manage money with clarity, confidence, and impact.
- Good Money Club (a few spots will open in 2026)
- Signature 1:1 Program (spaces available from Jan 2026 onwards)
- VIP Day (only one per month, these are powerful strategy sessions)
On-demand training is available any time:
Business Model Design | Good Money Challenge
________________________________________________________________________
We’ve come so far as a society in many ways, but money is one of the areas where progress hasn’t been enough. If we want to tip the scales in favour of marginalised people, it starts with understanding the secret: money in small business.
In this podcast, Money Secrets, host Fiona (Fi) Johnston, Chartered Accountant, small business advocate, and impact enthusiast, dives into the conversations we need to have about money. The secrets that once stayed behind closed doors (or on the golf course) are finally out in the open.
Fi’s mission? To get more money into the hands of good people, like you. She believes small businesses have the power to change the world, and the key to making a bigger impact is to make, and manage, more money.
________________________________________________________________________
Thank you to everyone involved for bringing this podcast together. We are excited to hear from you with any questions, feedback or suggestions for future episodes that you might have. Send a Direct Message to @peach.business
If you are excited for what’s to come, please like this episode, follow the podcast and share it with your friends. We are thrilled you're here.
👉 Try Rounded free for 30 days
The link is for users new to Rounded only and offers a free, unrestricted 30-day free trial of Rounded for users who pay tax in Australia or New Zealand. No credit card needed.
Check out my FREE Pricing Training you need to set your prices for profitability.
________________________________________________________________________
This podcast episode was recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri People of the Kulin Nation and I'd like to acknowledge them as the Traditional Owners and custodians of this land and water that I live, work and play on. I'd like to pay respect to elders both past and present, and note that sovereignty has never been ceded. This always was and always will be Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander land.