In this episode, Amir sits down with Anthony Jules, Co-Founder and CEO of Robust.AI, to explore how scaling lessons from the early days of Sapient translate into today’s rapidly evolving world of AI and robotics. Anthony shares stories from growing a company from 3 to 4,000 people, what scale teaches you about communication and change, and how being ruthlessly honest about your business creates strategic advantage. From the hype vs. reality of AI to how hardware can stabilize innovation in robotics, this conversation is rich with insights for technologists, entrepreneurs, and leaders navigating change.

🧠 Key Takeaways

Scaling Isn't Linear: Growth comes in step changes. Every size milestone (20, 80, 400 people) brings new communication and leadership challenges.

Be Your Own Harshest Critic: Anticipating problems internally before customers see them helps companies adapt with intention rather than react out of panic.

Conflicting Conversations Are Strategic: To see opportunities clearly, seek out voices that challenge your assumptions.

Hardware Brings Stability to AI: Robotics forces long-term thinking, helping offset the volatility of rapidly shifting AI models.

The Future of Robotics Is Ubiquitous: Anthony believes robotics will become the largest industry in the world in 20 years, driven by economics, not hype.

🕒 Timestamped Highlights

00:41 – What Robust.AI does: collaborative robots for logistics and manufacturing

01:58 – Scaling Sapient from 3 to 4,000 people and lessons learned along the way

04:23 – How communication and organizational structure evolve with growth

07:31 – Being brutally honest about internal problems before they become external ones

11:15 – How to know if you’re chasing a real opportunity or just rationalizing it

14:31 – Transferable skills from big orgs to startups: problem-solving and people leadership

17:53 – Why AI generalists are essential and how fast the AI landscape is changing

21:40 – Robotics as a stabilizer in the age of volatile AI

24:42 – Why robotics will be the dominant global industry in 20 years

28:18 – How to contact Anthony or explore Robust.AI

💬 Quote of the Episode

“Your ability to have large impact is proportional to your ability to get people aligned toward a common goal.” — Anthony Jules

🛠️ Resources Mentioned

Robust.AI website

Contact Anthony directly: [email protected]

💼 Career Tips (from the conversation)

Find Your Sweet Spot: Anthony notes his strongest impact comes when leading teams of 50–200. Knowing the environment where you thrive is critical for long-term growth.

Feedback Loops Drive Performance: Success isn’t set-and-forget. Constantly revisit goals, resourcing, and alignment.

Stay Open to Reconfiguration: Especially in emerging tech, leaders should be ready to reshape their teams, tools, and focus based on what’s working.