What is the purpose of education?
In this founding conversation, historian, educator, and activist Dr. Butch Ware argues that education is not simply about acquiring knowledge—it's about becoming more fully human.
Recorded at the School of Radical Imagination's inaugural summit, Education in Times of Revolution, this conversation explores how systems of education have been used to uphold empire, capitalism, and white supremacy, and what it would mean to reimagine learning as a practice of liberation instead.
Together, we discuss the Black liberation tradition, lifelong learning, imagination as resistance, parenting, spirituality, and why the ultimate purpose of education is to cultivate human beings capable of building societies rooted in love, justice, and care.
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In This Episode
3:29 What does "education in times of revolution" mean?
06:20 How education reproduces white supremacy, capitalism, and empire
10:19 Building a School of Radical Imagination—and learning from the Black liberation tradition
17:40 The true purpose of education: becoming more fully human
20:42 Parenting, schools, and protecting children's innate curiosity
28:07 Why learning should last a lifetime
31:14 Malcolm X, prisons, and education as liberation
35:55 Why imagination is itself a radical practice
41:31 Rest, healing, and accountability in movement spaces
45:46 Intellectual humility and learning how to say "I don't know"
51:24 Knowledge is not a commodity
Key Takeaways
- The purpose of education is not simply to transmit information, but to cultivate our shared humanity.
- Systems of education are never neutral—they shape how we understand ourselves and the world.
- Radical imagination is itself a form of resistance because it expands what we believe is possible.
- Liberation requires both unlearning oppressive systems and reconnecting with histories and traditions that have been intentionally erased.
- Knowledge is not a commodity to consume—it is something we cultivate, embody, and share in relationship with one another.
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