SCP#4 is with two awesome humans from the Kaijin MMA family. They are a father and son MMA combo, who began training together and continue to train together. It is an amazing father-son relationship to see and be around. I have been looking forward to getting these two together on a podcast, and there is no better time to do that than after a long MMA sparring session!  check out my content and coaching at www.shaemuscullen.com