Lance takes a deep dive into the Iowa State program with former Cyclone All-Big performer and podcast regular Abby Caldwell. Abby talks about the return of Frank Hayes to Ames, the previous regime and the effect on recruiting, one big reason she loved running for Amy Rudolph, mottos adopted over the years and lack of drama on the women's team. Also, a breakdown of Drake and UNI's cross country schedules and a small race report.