We watch season one, episode 18, "Numbers," and just want Hurley to be believed. We also talk to David Fury, who co-wrote this episode, about Rousseau, where the numbers came from and whether Hurley's flashbacks are supposed to be funny. Plus, a memory from The Lost Experience! We're on Twitter @TheHatchPodcast. Leave us your hot take by phone at +1 954-6-DHARMA, and please rate/review us on iTunes. Our theme music is by Andy G. Cohen and our cover art is by Danny Roth.