I got to talk to Liz Carry. Liz is currently living in Michigan as a paralegal. Liz and I discuss criminal defense, the court system nowadays and it’s slow ramp-up to the delays of COVID-19. Liz is also the co-host in the criminal defense podcast Constitutional Defenders. Working in a socially less desired field takes it’s toll on everyone. It is nice to know that there are people in the world that want to do the work that is difficult for a lot of us to wrap our brain’s around. I enjoyed my time talking with her and look forward to listening to her podcast.