In Episode 20, Jessica Ann talks with fashion photographer and podcast host Michael Donovan. 

Michael Donovan’s images navigate an exploration into consumer culture, advertising and the emotions separating art and fashion photography. According to HungerTV: 

“Combining the beautiful with the bizarre, the controlled with the chaotic, Donovan´s photography attempts to destabilise the highly polished images expected of today´s consumer culture through the use of the psychedelic, androgyny, comedy, eroticism, surrealism, fantasy, Pop Art, cinema, fetishism and historical nuance.”

{Warning: Explicit language!}

In this interview, Michael and Jessica Ann discuss: 

1. His background as a photographer and the paradox of being an artist. 
2. How advertising is the old way of being propaganda and "product is perfect" is dead. It still works because not everyone has woken up. This old world still works but we're moving away from it. So there's this exciting new corridor.
3. The irrelevance of having a title: "I'm more than a photographer. I'm a spiritual being who happens to be plopped out of this body." 
4. Ram Dass's exploration as to why we’re here on earth, using TV channels as metaphors to get to the root of our existence and to understand the different planes of consciousness. Available to listen to here. 
5. How to balance the duality between the lower Channels 1, 2, and 3 and 4, 5, 6. 
6. Do we still need to have titles and "personas" when we live in an enlightened society? 
7. Most people want freedom, happiness, and peace. And most people want to give others freedom, happiness, and peace. 
8. If we don't recognize that each of us are consciousness, what's the point? Everything is pointing us towards togetherness. 
9. Technology is another animal like we're another animal. 
10. The importance of leaders talking about intuition and the need to create a shortcut//access point to make people understand the relationship between brands, businesses, and channel 6.