Dan talks about a move back to the Eastern time zone, to Vermont/New Hampshire, during the pandemic to train with longtime American standout Ben True. He goes into detail what working with Ben has meant to him. Dan also describes how his interest in mountain/elevation running got started. He talks about his time in Ames and how team tactics were used in many championship races. He also gives his viewpoint on why the Martin Smith era ended a couple years ago. Dan tells why he feels he has a gift for mountain running and the popularity of the sport in Europe. He also tells some of the challenges he encountered while racing in Italy last September.