What is destiny, anyway? We try to figure out what it means for Locke and for Ben, as Locke attempts to save the island and Ben attempts to avoid grappling with his sins. Plus we welcome back Kevin Durand (Martin Keamy), who tells us about filming his epic fight with Sayid, getting stabbed by Ben and ad-libbing one of the show's funniest lines. Find us on Twitter @TheHatchPodcast and at Facebook.com/thehatchpodcast. Leave us your hot take at +1 954-6-DHARMA. Our theme music is by Andy G. Cohen and our cover art is by Danny Roth.