The podcast opens with Lance taking a look back at the highlights from last weekend's NCAA cross country championship races. Then, Northern Iowa 8K record holder Caleb Shumaker comes on to talk about his historic final cross country season in Cedar Falls. Caleb tells about running for head cross country coach Alexina Teubel and the lessons he's learned from the multi-time U.S. Olympic Trials qualifier. Caleb looks ahead to the indoor track season and a new goal he has set for himself. He also dives into his passion and how it all started. He and Lance also discuss a passion of Caleb's that started in school at Tipton.