Ryan welcomes on longtime WHL referee Steve Papp while Clarkey is away, and they dig into Steve's extensive officiating career in the Western Hockey League, one of the best junior leagues on earth under the Canadian Hockey League umbrella.

Steve shares stories of how he got his career started, run-ins with coaches, the ongoing shortage of young officials in sport due to abuse, as well as some of the big events he's worked including Memorial Cups and the World Juniors.

Ryan also touches on Steve's beloved Maple Leafs, as they get ever closer to another regular season. Steve touches on being a fan, the core 4, and finding ways to stay optimistic as Leafs Nation try to push through another year waiting for eventual playoff success.

Steve then takes part in Couch Potato of the Week picks, as he highlights the abysmal and record setting Chicago White Sox, and Ryan highlights an amazing gesture from the Philadelphia Flyers to Matt and Johnny Gaudreau's father, Guy.

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