Have you ever wondered what two men who love and admire one another sound like when they have a conversation? If you have, then this is the conversation you have been waiting for! 

Javier is a world-class educator and a top-notch human. We talked about his work with an organization he started called the Human Values Collective. We hear the in-depth insights into their work and also why Javier has earned the nickname, "Self Care Javier."

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