Notes To My (Legal) Self

Season 5, Episode 15: What Does It Mean to be a Leader? (with Mary Smith)

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Welcome to the season finale of "Knowles to My Legal Self," where we explore the intersections of law, leadership, and the personal journeys that shape us. In this potentially last episode of 2022, we're honored to host Mary Smith, the trailblazing President-Elect of the American Bar Association (ABA) and the first Native American woman to hold this prestigious position. Mary's distinguished career spans across high-profile roles in law, healthcare, biopharmaceuticals, insurance, and consulting, making her insights invaluable for anyone looking to make an impact in their field.


Key Takeaways:

  • Mary's groundbreaking election as the ABA President-Elect and what it represents for diversity and inclusion within the legal profession.
  • Insights into Mary's leadership style, the importance of developing leadership skills, and the challenges and triumphs of leading complex organizations.
  • The significance of representation and creating opportunities for Native American girls in STEM through the Caroline and Ora Smith Foundation.

    • Guest Information: Mary Smith brings a wealth of experience from her roles as an independent board member, former CEO of the Indian Health Service, and her legal career including positions at Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP, Tyco International, the White House, and the U.S. Department of Justice. Her dedication to advancing diversity, equity, and inclusion has been recognized with the ABA Spirit of Excellence Award.


    Special Features:

    • A deep dive into the challenges of effecting change within large organizations and the legal profession.
    • Mary's personal journey from a systems programmer to a legal and healthcare leader.
    • Leadership lessons learned from mistakes and successes throughout her career.


      • Questions:

      • How does Mary Smith envision her presidency impacting the ABA and the legal profession at large?
      • What inspired Mary to start the Caroline and Ora Smith Foundation, and how does she see it evolving?
      • How has Mary's unique background influenced her leadership style and her approach to diversity and inclusion?


        • Don't miss this enlightening conversation with Mary Smith. Tune in, be inspired, and consider what leadership in law means to you. Share your thoughts with us on social media or leave a review on your favorite podcast platform.

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