In this podcast recorded on Sept. 5, Phil describes the process of how he became involved in the running shoe and apparel business, starting with a job in Iowa City. He talks about the timeline and process involved in starting his first Fleet Feet in Davenport and challenging the established running store, Running Wild, in the Quad-Cities. Phil tells if he thinks there may be changes coming to the Des Moines store and changes he's seen in the running store business. Phil, who has a best of 15:30 for the 5K, chats about the most memorable win of his career and why he has gravitated toward the longer distances as he has grown older. He also mentions goals he has once he turns 40 years old in May.