In this episode, we take a look at chapters twelve and thirteen of Heretics of Dune, in which Miles foils an attempt by the Honored Matres to use a captured Reverend Mother Superior Taraza for their own purposes, it turns out that Taraza's capture wasn't as much of a win for the Matres as it may have seemed, Odrade recalls some of her history serving the designs of the Breeding Mistresses of the Bene Gesserit, and Taraza lectures Miles and Odrade about these new and mysterious enemies and the dangers of the Bene Gesserit's plans…with some, uh, dated references. Also, Elayne attempts to use her limited knowledge of the actual plans of the various factions in the novel to make some predictions.