Hanzi Freinacht is a political philosopher, historian & sociologist, author of The Listening Society, Nordic Ideology, and the upcoming book The 6 Hidden Patterns of World History. 

As a writer, Hanzi combines in-depth knowledge of several sciences and disciplines and offers maps of our time and the human condition with his characteristically accessible, poetic and humorous writing style – challenging the reader’s perspective of herself and the world. He epitomizes much of the metamodern philosophy and can be considered a personification of this strand of thought.

In this interview we talk about: 

• Hanzi’s six types of politics
• The need to adopt a more holistic, or integral, or metamodern worldview
• How our subjective experiences are an important part of the metamodern perspective
• The difference between light depth and dark depth:  And why light depth is a profoundly playful position and dark depth is profound seriousness. And why both of these are true

We also discuss: 

• Why you can “out-depth” your partner and what to do about it.
• The cosmo-erotic relationship to the artist
• The importance of Integrating the part of yourself that's seeking a specific level of depth from a romantic partner
• Why not all people can become metamodernists