Spencer Rattler leads the Saints into a frigid Green Bay and looks to upset the Packers. Can New Orleans pull it off without Alvin Kamara and the rookie leading the charge? Ross and John preview what has to go right for Darren Rizzi and company in all phases of the game, plus some big updates on players.

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The Saints were two totally different teams in each half, and the second half one nearly pulled off the upset against the Commanders. Join Ross and John as they talk through what went wrong for Jake Haener and what went right for Spencer Rattler. All that and plenty more from an interesting Week 15.

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Jake Haener will make his first start of his young career, and the Commanders are undoubtedly a tough draw. However, Haener is confident and looks ready to lead the Saints here. What does he need and New Orleans to do to help upset Washington? Ross and John dive into a Week 15 game preview.

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It wasn't the prettiest win or most convincing, but the Saints were able to escape the Meadowlands with a win over the Giants. There's plenty of questions for New Orleans following Week 14, mainly what the future of Derek Carr is going to be. Ross and John break it down, talking about what we liked, didn't like and what we want to see going forward. Oh, and Bryan Bresee saving the day to put some more Darren Rizzi magic in play.

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The Saints had their first loss under Darren Rizzi, and it was a tough one. Now, we're curious to see how the team rebounds with a very favorable opponent at hand. What's the formula for New Orleans to win? How will they cope with no Taysom Hill? Can the run defense be better? Ross and John break it all down for Week 14.

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It was a tale of two halves for the Saints, as their second half against the Rams ended up doing them in. New Orleans might have lost a couple of players for the year after Sunday in Taysom Hill and Nick Saldiveri, while the team is now just 1-4 in one-score games. Ross and John break down all of the action from the Superdome and talk about the loss.

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The Saints get the job done against the Browns and move to 2-0 under Darren Rizzi. It might not have been the prettiest win, but Sunday showed the resiliency and clear culture transformation for New Orleans. Ross and John break down the action, Taysom Hill having a day and much more live from the Superdome.

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The Saints are back in action to take on the Browns and we're wondering if the Darren Rizzi energy carries over from their big win over the Falcons. New Orleans will have an interesting test on their hands with Jameis Winston returning to the Superdome. What do they need to do to get another win and what are the keys to victory? Ross and John break it all down for Week 11.

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The Saints kick off the Darren Rizzi era with a hard-fought win over the Falcons. New Orleans ends a seven-game losing streak and did a whole lot of things right to pull off the upset. Ross and John break down the action, what players said and much more.

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The Saints start life under interim head coach Darren Rizzi, but will it produce new results when they play the Falcons? Here's what needs to happen, what we expect and who wins. Also, Ross and John discuss the many changes with Rizzi in charge and what it means for New Orleans. Get some insight on how things were going in the building.

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