Second Chances: The Best Parts are on Side B

Can you find love again after heartbreak, emotional abuse, and a high-conflict divorce? In this episode of Second Chances: The Best Parts Are on Side B, Lisa Johnson and Chris Berry, the couple behind Been There Got Out (BTGO), share their inspiring second-chance love story—from navigating toxic relationships and online dating to rebuilding trust and finding love again. We dive into narcissistic relationships, emotional abuse, healthy boundaries, divorce, co-parenting, and the impact of high-conflict relationships on children. Lisa and Chris share honest relationship advice, healing strategies, and how their personal experiences inspired them to become advocates, coaches, and authors of two powerful books. Their message? Your past doesn't have to define your future. Healing is possible, love can happen again, and sometimes your greatest chapter is still ahead.

Takeaways:

• Hidden Abuse: Recognizing toxic patterns.
• Second Chances: Finding love after heartbreak.
• Online Dating: Taking a leap of faith.
• Healthy Boundaries: Protecting your peace.
• Building Trust: Honesty, vulnerability, and connection.
• Love & Laughter: Rediscovering romance.
• Healing Trauma: Navigating triggers and rebuilding confidence.
• Narcissistic Relationships: Spotting emotional abuse.
• Therapy Challenges: Avoiding blame and manipulation.
• High-Conflict Divorce: Communicating without escalating.
• Protecting Children: Putting their well-being first.
• Finding Support: The power of therapy and community.
• Pain Into Purpose: Turning struggles into strength.
• Sharing Your Story: Inspiring others through books and advocacy.

Sound Bites:
00:00 "They survived high conflict relationships."
14:20 "I have never stopped wanting to know her more."
20:43 "It's not about the cigarette."
22:52 "You should write a book."
24:00 "This isn't normal. This isn't right."
27:40 "You've ruined my life, both of you."
30:59 "We call it strategic communication."
34:14 "You could never represent yourself."
37:14 "Children are essentially both of you."
44:14 "This is a human issue, not a gender issue."

Chapters:
00:00 Recognizing Abuse in Relationships
01:40 Finding Love After Heartbreak
08:03 The Journey of Online Dating
14:28 Navigating New Relationships
21:08 Helping Others Through Shared Experiences
23:32 Understanding Narcissistic Relationships
28:54 Navigating Therapy with Narcissists
30:36 Establishing Boundaries and Communication
35:29 The Impact of Divorce on Children
41:32 Healing and Moving Forward
46:05 Finding Purpose in Helping Others

Connect with Chris and Lisa: Website: https://beentheregotout.com/

Podcast: https://beentheregotout.buzzsprout.com/

First BTGO Book: https://www.amazon.com/Been-There-Got-Relationships-Circumstances/dp/194627495X/

Second book: https://www.amazon.com/Been-There-Got-Out-Against/dp/1967674183/

Strategic Communication course - free webinar:  https://programs.beentheregotout.com/SC-Register

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In this deeply vulnerable episode of Second Chances: The Best Parts Are on Side B, Tiffaney Childers shares her journey through grief, trauma, chronic pain, and healing after losing both of her parents to suicide. Tiffaney opens up about what it means to keep functioning when your world has fallen apart—the loneliness that can exist even when you’re surrounded by people, the stigma surrounding suicide loss, and the hidden weight of carrying grief in silence. She shares how vulnerability and community became essential parts of finding her way forward. Through motherhood, chronic pain, self-discovery, and the support of others, Tiffaney began transforming survival into something more: a life filled with greater intention, connection, and purpose.This conversation is about allowing yourself to be seen in the messy middle, finding the courage to ask for support, and discovering that healing doesn’t require having everything figured out. Sometimes a second chance begins with one small decision to keep going—and then choosing to do it again tomorrow. Tiffaney’s story is a powerful reminder that our hardest chapters don’t have to be the end of the story.

Takeaways

• Staying strong can prevent healing. Healing involves discomfort, but so does refusing to heal.
• Community is essential for healing.
• Motherhood can be a lifeline during tough times.
• Chronic pain can stem from emotional trauma.
• Grief can feel isolating, even in a crowd.
• Talking about loss helps break the stigma. Don't waste your pain; use it to help others.
• You can change your direction at any time. Silence about grief can be more harmful than healing.

Sound Bites

00:00 "Strong does not mean healing."

06:40 "You better make time to fall apart."

15:05 "Community will be your lifeline."

30:01 "You have got to dig down deep."

32:05 "Don't waste your pain."

34:03 "Grief is a toxic place to sit."

35:36 "Silence buries you, it doesn't heal you."

Chapters

00:00 The Strength in Vulnerability

02:58 Navigating Grief and Trauma

06:01 The Chaos of High Functioning Survival

09:10 The Loneliness of Grief

12:00 Understanding Suicide and Its Impact

15:05 The Importance of Community and Support

18:13 Motherhood as a Lifeline

21:01 Facing Chronic Pain and Healing

24:10 Transforming Pain into Purpose

27:00 The Journey of Healing and Self-Discovery

30:01 Embracing Change and Moving Forward

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What happens when a connection from your past finds its way back to you more than 30 years later? In this episode of Second Chances: The Best Parts Are on Side B, Originally released as a two-part episode, Darice and Mitch share their remarkable second chance love story from meeting in 1989 and losing touch to an unexpected reunion decades later in one full episode. Their story is filled with faith, spiritual connection, personal growth, miracles, and divine timing. After more than three decades, one simple message reopened a door neither expected and rekindled a love they had never completely forgotten. A beautiful reminder that sometimes the right love doesn’t arrive on our timeline—and that second chances can come when we least expect them.

Takeaways:

• Miracles happen every day, whether we recognize them or not.
• Faith and divine timing can bring people together against all odds.
• Open communication and trust are vital in overcoming relationship challenges.
• Spiritual connections can guide life choices and reunions.
• Patience and perseverance are key to second chances in love.

Sound Bites:

5:35 — Miracles happen every single day, every moment.

60:06 — Your souls knew each other and found each other again.

49:11 — What is it? The show, Jerry Maguire. You complete me.

Chapters:

00:00 — Introduction to the story of love and miracles

02:08 — How they first met and their initial connection

06:02 — The impact of life challenges and serving missions

12:05 — The moment they lost touch and life moved on

20:05 — The unexpected reconnection and divine signs

30:01 — The first time they spoke after decades

39:50 — Their feelings and the spiritual bond

50:10 — The significance of divine timing and miracles

59:58 — Their marriage and ongoing journey of love

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What happens when your first love finds its way back to you decades later?

In this episode of Second Chances: The Best Parts Are on Side B, Jerry and Debbie revisit their teenage romance in 1980s Alaska—from folded notes and long-distance love to the friendships, memories, and growing pains that shaped their lives. Originally released as a two-part story earlier this year, their journey is now brought together in one complete episode, taking you from young love and years apart to an unexpected reconnection decades later.

With laughter, honesty, and plenty of nostalgia, Jerry and Debbie reflect on love, relationships, friendship, faith, happiness, personal growth, and self-discovery—and the life lessons that come with getting a second chance. Can a connection from your teenage years survive decades apart? Sometimes the best parts of our story really do come on Side B.

Takeaways

• Teenage romance and first love can leave a lasting impact.
• Long-distance love, friendships, and family shape the relationships we remember.
• Nostalgia can bring old memories—and old feelings—back to life.
• Reconnection proves that timing can change everything in love and life.
• Happiness and personal growth start with finding fulfillment within yourself.
• Faith and friendship can create bonds that survive years apart.
• Money can’t fix relationship problems, but personal growth can change your path.
• Second chances can lead to unexpected love, happiness, and self-discovery.

Sound Bites

00:00 "Love Jerry. and I love you, Jerry."

06:28 "I was like, My mom is here, what the heck?"

25:01 "Jerry Fullmer is alive."

27:26 "It takes a village to raise everybody."

28:46 "It's all God's timing."

31:11 "You just know, you know."

41:54 "Money only fixes money problems."

44:44 "You gotta make yourself happy."

46:59 "Sometimes, when you know, you know."

Chapters

00:00 Nostalgic Beginnings: Teenage Romance in Alaska

03:08 The Dance of Young Love: Memories and Connections

05:59 The Trials of Teenage Life: Family and Friendship

09:13 Long-Distance Love: The Impact of Time and Distance

11:54 Growing Up: Changes and Challenges

15:12 Reconnecting: The Journey Back to Each Other

17:58 Reflections on Love: Lessons from the Past

20:54 Full Circle: The Unchanging Nature of Connection

24:09 Reconnecting After Years Apart

27:26 The Journey to Happiness

29:16 The Power of Familiarity

34:56 Faith and Friendship

39:32 Life Together: A Second Chance

43:46 Finding Strength in Adversity

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What if your beginning didn’t have to determine your ending?

On Second Chances: The Best Parts Are on Side B, Jennie talks with Paul Lamar Hunter, author of No Love, No Charity: The Success of the Nineteenth Child. As the 19th of 21 children, Paul shares his inspirational story of overcoming poverty, adversity, generational trauma, and family dysfunction to become the first in his family to graduate from college.

Through faith, forgiveness, education, fatherhood, resilience, and personal growth, Paul learned how to break generational cycles and turn adversity into purpose.

It’s a powerful reminder to never give up—your past may shape your story, but it doesn’t have to write your ending.

Key Takeaways

• Your beginning does not determine your ending
• Turn adversity into resilience and purpose.
• Forgiveness helps break generational patterns.

• Education can be a powerful path to transformation
• Surround yourself with positive, like-minded people
• Keep moving forward—even without everyone’s support.
• Fatherhood is about presence, love, and intentional parenting
• Your story can give someone else hope to overcome
• Never give up: your best chapter may still be on Side B

Sound Bites

00:00 — Become Anything You Believe

01:26 — An Amazing American Story

06:15 — Put Purpose Above Circumstance

13:22 — Love Creates Change

18:06 — Forgiveness Frees You

20:32 — Education Breaks Barriers

22:58 — Cross the Finish Line

36:43 — Your Story Can Give Hope

41:30 — The Best Parts Are on Side B

Chapters

00:00 — You Can Become Anything
01:26 — The 19th Child of 21
02:53 — Growing Up in the 1970s
04:19 — The Power of Real Connection
06:43 — Music, Family, and Soul Train
08:37 — The Tradition of Sunday Dinner
11:30 — The Meaning Behind the Book Title
12:28 — The $1 House That Changed Everything
14:20 — Understanding Imperfect Parents
16:43 — Forgiveness Breaks Generational Cycles
18:06 — Surviving Family Trauma
20:03 — From Job Loss to College
21:32 — Becoming a Family First
22:58 — Crossing the Finish Line
24:55 — Choosing a Positive Circle
26:50 — Fatherhood and Family Legacy
27:49 — Turning Loss into Presence
30:09 — Coaching Beyond the Game
31:56 — From Book to Screenplay
33:49 — Overcoming the People Who Hold You Back
34:46 — Writing as a Path to Healing
36:14 — Becoming Proof of Possibility
38:09 — Keep Evolving and Stay Positive
38:37 — Paul’s Global Mission
40:30 — Resilience, Perseverance, and Hope
41:30 — Your Best Parts May Be on Side B

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TikTok: @paul.lamar.hunter, PaulLamarHunter2.0

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In this episode of Second Chances: The Best Parts Are on Side B, what happens when high school sweethearts reconnect after 32 years and finally learn why they lost each other? Bryan and Jennie share how one disconnected phone call changed everything—and how their second-chance love story inspired the novel As Sure as the Stars. From 1980s nostalgia to an unexpected reunion, it’s a story of first love, timing, and finding your way back.

• Ordinary moments can change everything — a missed call can alter the course of a life.
• Timing matters—sometimes love, reconciliation, and second chances arrive decades later.
• Our memories shape us — revisiting the past can bring unexpected clarity, healing, and understanding.
• Some moments feel bigger than coincidence — “God winks”, unexpected connections became meaningful parts of their reunion.
• Sharing your story takes vulnerability — but telling it can help you understand where you’ve been and who you’ve become.
• Nostalgia tells a story, too — music, dances, fashion, cassette tapes, and 1980s culture bring their high school years vividly back to life.
• Love can be rediscovered at any age — hope, courage, and vulnerability can open the door to a second chance.
• Real life can inspire something bigger — their lost-and-found love story became the heart behind As Sure as the Stars.

Soundbites

03:26 The Story Was Meant to Be Written

06:21 The Memory That Survived

16:17 The Phone Call That Never Came

29:48 The Moment Everything Came Back

38:23 The First Dance

45:01 Love Is Not Always a Straight Line

45:31 Ordinary Moments Can Become Everything

46:59 Love Requires Courage

48:53 There Is Hope for Everyone

49:51 One Misunderstanding Created Three Decades

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Love Story and Book Inspiration

04:11 Memories Resurfaced During Writing

07:36 High School Traditions and First Love

10:39 The Awkwardness of the First Encounter

14:55 The Disconnected Phone and Missed Opportunities

18:33 The Emotional Impact of Nostalgic Songs

19:43 The Surreal Moment of Seeing Each Other Again

22:13 Jake's Perspective and the Moment of Recognition

23:30 The Significance of Ordinary Moments

24:47 The First Conversation and Reconnecting

26:10 The First Time They Felt a Connection

27:06 Reflections on Teenage Insecurities

31:00 Memories of a High School Dance and Traditions

32:41 The First Night They Met in 1985

34:05 The Magic of a Slow Dance

35:39 The Moment of Recognition

38:10 The Elder's Advice, Timing

39:49 Memories, Songs of the 80s

43:00 Lessons on Love, Hope, and Second Chances

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In this episode of Second Chances: The Best Parts Are on Side B, Jennie Bryan and Dr. Phil get real about marriage, relationships, anger, fear, and communication in a candid mini therapy session.

They explore why conflict is rarely about the argument on the surface, how emotional intelligence can improve conflict resolution, and how gender differences, step parenting, blended families, and past relationships can shape the way couples communicate.

From resentment to compromise, discover practical insights for understanding your triggers, communicating what you really need, and building healthier relationships.

Takeaways:

Anger often stems from fear of loss.
Effective communication is crucial in relationships.
Conflict is a natural part of relationships.
Understanding emotional underpinnings can resolve arguments.
Gender differences affect communication styles.
Past relationships influence current dynamics.
Compromise is essential for relationship success.
Recognizing triggers can prevent escalation.
Learning to complain effectively improves communication.
Therapy can provide valuable tools for couples.

SoundBites:

00:00 "Marriage is messy. Second chances, even messier."

04:12 "It's best to compromise and to listen.

"06:34 "There's always a reason behind anger.

"13:30 "Conflict's not a bad thing.

"18:17 "You can't fix it if you don't talk about it.

"38:41 "It's never really just the paper towels.

"42:48 "True relationship is compromising.

"43:16 "You're helping a lot of people."

Chapters:

00:00 Understanding Anger and Fear

01:08 Introducing Dr. Phil and the Therapy Session

02:23 The Importance of Communication in Relationships

05:10 Conflict Resolution and Fair Fighting

10:13 Emotional Underpinnings of Arguments

14:54 The Role of Gender Differences in Communication1

9:45 Navigating Family Dynamics and Step Parenting

25:05 The Impact of Past Relationships on Current Dynamics2

9:59 Final Thoughts on Compromise and Understanding

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In this episode of Second Chances: The Best Parts are on Side B, Jennie explores forgiveness, self-forgiveness, shame, remorse, and personal growth. Inspired by Forgiven: Own What Is, Let Go of What Isn't, she examines how childhood experiences and past choices shape who we become, and why understanding our behavior can create space for healing, accountability, and emotional well-being. This episode is a reminder that we can't change the past, but we can stop allowing it to define us—and move forward with self-compassion, grace, and second chances.

Takeaways:

Forgiveness is about giving ourselves permission to change the future.
Remorse can lead to growth, while shame can keep us stuck.
Understanding our past choices helps us to forgive ourselves.
We often judge our younger selves with the wisdom we have now.
Forgiveness is a process that may need to be revisited.
We can own our choices without being defined by them.
Understanding childhood experiences can inform our adult behavior.
Forgiveness does not require reconciliation with others.
Setting boundaries is essential for protecting our peace.
The rest of our life is still ahead of us, regardless of past mistakes.

Sound Bites:

00:00 "The rest of your life is ahead of you."

19:49 "Forgiveness does not mean access."

25:27 "We can own the choices we made."

25:56 "We don't have to keep carrying the shame."

26:53 "What am I ready to stop carrying?"

Chapters:

00:00 The Challenge of Self-Forgiveness

03:09 Understanding Remorse vs. Shame

06:00 The Weight of Past Choices

08:52 The Impact of Childhood Experiences

12:09 Forgiveness: A Process, Not a Destination

15:02 The Complexity of Forgiveness

17:55 The Journey of Self-Understanding

21:11 Practical Steps to Forgiveness

24:05 Embracing Second Chances

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In this episode of Second Chances: The Best Parts are on Side B, Jennie explores forgiveness, self-forgiveness, shame, remorse, and personal growth. Inspired by Forgiven: Own What Is, Let Go of What Isn't, she examines how childhood experiences and past choices shape who we become, and why understanding our behavior can create space for healing, accountability, and emotional well-being. This episode is a reminder that we can't change the past, but we can stop allowing it to define us—and move forward with self-compassion, grace, and second chances.

Takeaways:

Forgiveness is about giving ourselves permission to change the future.
Remorse can lead to growth, while shame can keep us stuck.
Understanding our past choices helps us to forgive ourselves.
We often judge our younger selves with the wisdom we have now.
Forgiveness is a process that may need to be revisited.
We can own our choices without being defined by them.
Understanding childhood experiences can inform our adult behavior.
Forgiveness does not require reconciliation with others.
Setting boundaries is essential for protecting our peace.
The rest of our life is still ahead of us, regardless of past mistakes.

Sound Bites:

00:00 "The rest of your life is ahead of you."

19:49 "Forgiveness does not mean access."

25:27 "We can own the choices we made."

25:56 "We don't have to keep carrying the shame."

26:53 "What am I ready to stop carrying?"

Chapters:

00:00 The Challenge of Self-Forgiveness

03:09 Understanding Remorse vs. Shame

06:00 The Weight of Past Choices

08:52 The Impact of Childhood Experiences

12:09 Forgiveness: A Process, Not a Destination

15:02 The Complexity of Forgiveness

17:55 The Journey of Self-Understanding

21:11 Practical Steps to Forgiveness

24:05 Embracing Second Chances

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What happens when life gives you more than one second chance?

In this powerful episode of Second Chances: The Best Parts Are on Side B, Joel and Vicky share an extraordinary journey of organ transplantation, resilience, faith, family, and unexpected love.

Vicky received a life-saving kidney transplant from her sister, while Joel survived liver failure and a liver transplant. Their experiences reshaped how they view gratitude, family support, personal growth, and the gift of everyday life. Years later, Joel and Vicky reconnected and found their own second chance on love. Together, they open up about marriage, blending families, communication, overcoming adversity, and supporting each other through life's hardest moments. This is a story about surviving, healing, loving again—and choosing what to do with the second chances we're given.

Takeaways:

• Second chances can change everything.
• Organ donation saves lives and creates new beginnings.
• Kidney and liver transplants reveal the power of resilience.
• Faith, family, and hope provide strength through adversity.
• Gratitude changes how we see everyday life.
• Sometimes survival leads to an unexpected second chance at love.
• Blending families requires patience, support, and understanding.
• Communication is the foundation of a strong marriage.
• Past relationships can fuel self-worth and personal growth.
• Love, laughter, and shared struggles can make relationships stronger.
• Sharing our experiences can create healing, purpose, and legacy.

Sound Bites

00:00 "We all go through stuff."

03:17 "I was young and stupid."

05:10 "I did end up having babies."

08:03 "I was praying really hard."1

2:17 "I never had any doubts."

31:15 "I lost myself."

31:43 "We support each other."

36:56 "Don't let it fester."

47:00 "I wear it proudly."

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Second Chances

02:47 Vicky's Journey of Resilience

06:09 Joel's Liver Transplant Experience

08:59 Faith and Overcoming Adversity

11:47 The Power of Family and Love

15:11 Finding Each Other Again

18:05 Cherishing Life's Little Moments

23:48 Reconnecting and Rediscovering Love

25:11 Blending Families and Navigating Relationships

26:39 Lessons from Past Relationships

30:19 Communication and Support in Marriage

35:59 Fun and Lighthearted Moments

42:14 Life Lessons and Legacy

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