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Ali Ansari was born in Tehran, moved to the US at 10, graduated Berkeley in three years, and started micro1 as an AI recruiter in April 2022. Then one customer hired 500 engineers in two weeks. Ali figured out they were training models, shut down a business doing millions in revenue, and went all in on data. Fifteen months later micro1 went from $7M to over $500M ARR, Forbes called him one of AI's youngest billionaires, and every major lab, most robotics labs, and Fortune 500 enterprises are customers. This is his first podcast in Persian. We talk about how RL environments and verifiers actually work, why micro1 refuses to work with China, the "expert happiness index" that decides manager commissions, the 10,000 person robotics project, why he never gave up board control, and the three principles he thinks every founder needs.

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Yasi Baiani built sleep and female health at Fitbit, took revenue from $700M to $2.2B, and watched Google buy the company for $2.1B. She started at Citi, moved into venture, launched a startup out of Harvard Innovation Lab alongside Whoop founder Will Ahmed, then wrote her way into Fitbit. After Fitbit she taught product manager at UC Berkeley, unlocked the teen and elder care market at Cleo, and founded Raya Advisory, which helps growth stage AI, software, health tech and fintech companies with product strategy and executive hiring. In this episode: the three rules behind a network of half a million followers, why Fitbit chose sleep over weight loss, how Fitbit lost 90% market share to Apple, who wins wearables in the age of OpenAI hardware, why she never hires from Google for startups, and whether the PM role exists in 2030

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Babak Hodjat has been building AI agents since 1998. He said that in front of a room in San Francisco last week, sitting next to his brother Siamak for the first time in 25 years. His argument is narrower than the bubble talk, and more useful. Enterprises are not buying AI because a need has been identified. They are buying because the business side expects productivity in return.

The engineering that would actually deliver that productivity has not been done yet. Until it is, the revenue is running ahead of the value. He also thinks most of the layoffs attributed to AI were cuts companies could already afford. Babak co-founded Dejima in 1998. The patent behind it, "Adaptive interaction using an adaptive agent-oriented software architecture," carries a June 15 1998 priority date and became foundational to Apple's Siri. Sybase acquired the company in 2004. He went on to co-found Sentient Technologies, applying evolutionary algorithms to trading, and now leads AI at Cognizant.

Siamak Hodjat was at Dejima from the start and stayed in the assistant world through Siri, Viv Labs and Gameplanner alongside Adam Cheyer.

Recorded live in San Francisco on July 25, 2026, in front of a room of founders and researchers.

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Ramin Hasani is the co-founder and CEO of Liquid AI, and he has done what almost no one in AI has: built a real alternative to the transformer, the architecture behind ChatGPT and nearly every model you touch. Liquid AI raised a $250M Series A led by AMD, and by his own account now sits around $4.5 billion. The core idea did not come from a bigger data center. It came from the 302-neuron brain of a 2mm worm. We also get into the part most founders never put on a slide. While the whole field was stripping complexity out of neural networks to make them scale, Ramin spent seven years adding it back in, chasing an equation about how two neurons talk that had sat unsolved since 1907. He cracked it on a chalkboard at MIT, one now headed to the MIT history museum.

Ramin was born in Iran and left for Politecnico di Milano, then a PhD at TU Wien in Vienna, where modeling the brain of a worm became Liquid Neural Networks. From there: MIT, CSAIL, a 2022 Nature paper, and in March 2023 spinning the research into Liquid AI alongside Daniela Rus, Mathias Lechner, and Alexander Amini.

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00:00:00 Introduction 

00:03::24 Why Noise Is Actually a Resource for Computation 

00:06:01 Where the Whole Worm Idea Came From 

00:6:56 Why Ramin Chose the C. elegans Worm as the Basis of His Research 

00:10:19 How Ramin Found His First Co Founder 

00:18:08 The Equation Ramin and His Team Solved That Had Been Unsolved Since 1907

00:19:06 The First Mathematical Attempt in 1953 to Show Neuron Relationships 00:19:41 What Is the Problem With Differential Equation Based Machine Learning? 00:21:29 The Aha Moment Behind Liquid AI 

00:22:16 The Birth of Liquid AI 

00:22:46 How Sergey Levine Inspired the Name 

00:24:09 How Liquid AI's Architecture Differs From Transformers 

00:25:09 The Relationship Between Bias and Algorithm Scalability 

00:28:05 Why Liquid Neural Networks Have an Efficiency Advantage at Scale 

00:29:41 Do Scaling Laws Apply to Liquid Models? 

00:31:26 Attention Is Not the Only Thing You Can Scale 

00:34:08 How the Liquid Search System Works 

00:34:53 Why Liquid AI Has the Lowest Memory Usage and Latency and Why It Is Hybrid 

00:35:00 The Best Foundation Model for CPUs 

00: 37:30 How to Close Enterprise Customers in the AI Era 

00:38:29 What Vanguard Taught Ramin About Financial Strategy 

00:41:58 125 Enterprises Are Now Using the Liquid AI Model 

00:42:56 How to Design a Revenue Model for Enterprise in the AI Era00:43:19 How Shopify Uses Liquid AI

00:44:00 How Mercedes Uses Liquid AI With a 600 MB Model 

00:45:51 The Quality of $1 of Liquid AI Revenue Compared to $1 of Anthropic 

00:47:13 Why Liquid Is Going After Arm's Business Model 

00:52:53 The Story Behind Another Iranian Founded AI DNA Startup That Raised $200M in Seed 

00:55:47 The Story Behind Liquid AI's $290M Fundraise 

00:59:30 How to Close a Seed Round 

00:1:00:17 The Mastermind Behind the Fundraising 

00:1:02:57 The Story Behind AMD Leading the Round 

1:04:56 Why Revenue Matters So Much for Fundraising 

1:05:22 Liquid AI Is Now at a $4.5 Billion Valuation 

1:05:51 Ramin's Insight on Building a World Class Network 

1:07:32 Ramin's Takeaways From Meeting Jamie Dimon 

1:08:31 Jamie Dimon's Pitch for Liquid AI 

1:08:51 How to Build an Effective Short Narrative for Your Pitch 

1:10:31 Leading by Example 

1:11:07 What Is the Best Definition of Intelligence? 

1:14:32 Silicon Valley Is a Gossip Town 

1:16:22 Why an Exponential View Matters and How Sam Altman Does It

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Ali Behrouz is an AI researcher and the author of two of the most talked about papers in machine learning right now, Titans and Nested Learning. He is a PhD student at Cornell University and a researcher at Google, and his work takes direct aim at one of the field's biggest questions: what comes after the transformer.

His paper Nested Learning, which Google's Jeff Dean called a possible paradigm shift, rethinks the whole deep learning stack. In this conversation we get into the back story behind Titans and Nested Learning, how Ali thinks about transformers and where they fall short, the idea that all of deep learning is really associative memory, and his newer work on giving models a kind of "sleep" phase to consolidate what they learn. One of the most insightful conversations we have had on where AI is heading.

Ali was named as the best AI researcher in 2025 by Second Group: Second Prize Awards 2025, Celebrating the Best Iranian AI Scientists, Roboticist, CEOs & Startups

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00:00 Introduction 

03:26 What is Intelligence? 

05:51 Academic Journey

11:57 From Blockchain to Brain Networks

17:21 The Allure of Computational Social Science

21:02 The Genesis of TITAN

24:39 Human Memory Systems vs. AI Caching

32:36 The Disconnect: Solving Anterograde Amnesia in LLMs

41:40 Mechanics of TITAN

47:37 The Viral Aftermath: Dealing with Hype and Haters

52:09 Why Transformers Dominate & The Rebranding Epidemic

57:24 Scaling Laws and the Limitations of Pure Compression

64:05 Anthropic vs. OpenAI

66:06 Architectural Frontiers: Loop Transformers & Mixture of Depths

69:01 Moving Beyond TITAN

77:51 Nested Learning: Emulating Brain Frequencies

81:44 Memory Distillation and AI Sleep Cycles

83:24 Career Advice: Scientific Progress as "Old Ideas + New Noise"

References

https://www.seltzer.com/margo/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large-scale_brain_network

https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/machine-learning/introduction-to-recurrent-neural-network/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamba_(deep_learning_architecture)

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Ali Kashani is the co-founder and CEO of Serve Robotics, and he has done what almost no one in Robotics  has: put robots on real streets in dozens of cities and made people love them. He is the youngest Iranian-born CEO on the Nasdaq, the youngest CEO of any robotics company on the exchange, growing revenue around 600 percent year over year and scaling from 100 robots to thousands in a single year.

We also get into the part most founders never put on a slide. Between spinning out of Uber and ringing the Nasdaq bell, Serve hit its last payroll ten times. Two of those times Ali made payroll out of his own mortgage. 

Ali was born in Iran and left at 17. He did his robotics PhD at the University of British Columbia on fusing LiDAR and cameras, started an energy hardware company that nearly died and then sold 

I co-hosted this one with a friend of the pod Brendan, Managing Director of AI and Partner at Human Agency.

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00:00:00 The youngest Iranian-born CEO on the Nasdaq

 00:01:19 Why a public company beats a private one 

00:02:47 The path to Serve: a robotics PhD and LiDAR

00:04:14 Fired, broke, and one step at a time 

00:07:20 The dead company that came back 

00:08:31 DARPA 2005 and the contrarian bet on LiDAR 

00:12:45 Designing a robot people would forgive 

00:16:04 Principle before perception 

00:18:45 Building the ecosystem: NVIDIA, Magna, Uber 

00:23:56 Dots versus lines, and "Exit Path" 

00:26:24 Turning customer concentration into a feature 

00:29:38 The real unit economics of a delivery 

00:31:48  Picking cities and rolling out robots 

00:33:17  The case for optimism on AI and jobs 

00:37:49  Sidewalks versus streets 

00:41:18  The IPO and the numbers 

‘00:42:23  Ten last payrolls and the Kashani loan 

00:46:10  Two days before Christmas: the call to Jensen 

00:48:50  From bankruptcy lawyers to the bell in three months 

00:49:11  The coming valley and the humanoid hype 

00:50:50 Where the value is in physical AI 

00:53:24 Why narrow robots beat humanoids, for now 

00:55:00 Don't follow trends 

00:57:44 Uncertainty is the job 

01:00:59  Startups as entropy reduction engines 

01:02:31 Touraj, Noosheen & Pejman

01:04:39  His hope for Iran

https://investors.generac.com/news-releases/news-release-details/generac-announces-acquisition-neurio-technology-inc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARPA_Grand_Challenge

https://bothsidesofthetable.com/invest-in-lines-not-dots-611f36491d73

https://www.therobotreport.com/four-ways-to-make-ai-products-that-people-will-love/

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Martin Basiri built ApplyBoard into a $3.2B company in 10 years, helping over 2 million students study abroad. He is among the very few Iranian immigrants to build a multibillion dollar company in North America, and ApplyBoard alone now contributes 0.6% of Canada's GDP. In this first time Martin shares his full playbook, before his first $3M raise, his vision for the future of immigration, and what he is building next with Passage, a new financial aid platform reimagining how students fund their education.

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0:00 0.6% of Canada's GDP 

0:39 Martin's Introduction 

2:02 The system design idea behind ApplyBoard 

7:37 Did your short experience as an employee in Ohio make it clear you couldn't work for others? 

9:09 Martin's philosophy on taking action 1

1:09 Martin's impact on Canada's economy 

13:01 ApplyBoard is the largest study abroad company globally 

13:44 The global problem in higher education 

14:51 ApplyBoard as the greatest impact entrepreneurship 

17:00 Passage's financial aid system 

18:22 How did Martin discover the higher education problem?

 28:22 Contrarian and right 

29:20 Martin's insight on growth stage capital 

33:41 ApplyBoard's revenue growth stats 

34:52 300 no's for the first $3M 

35:18 Plug and Play

 39:25 Martin is the only Iranian in the past 

20 years to build a $3.2 billion company as an immigrant

 40:37 Martin's take on AI's long term impact on higher education 

48:39 Martin's take on the future of immigration 

50:00 Fertility rate 

57:07 Martin's prediction on the future of study abroad and why Passage matters 

1:02:00 Martin's unique insight on immigration 

1:04:00 Canada's population decline this year 

1:05:22 Canada's productivity decline

1:07:08 The median income of immigrants from Canada to the US is $142,000

1:08:14 The rising cost of tuition in higher education

1:09:10 What is Passage?

1:14:16 Which country has had the best immigration policy in recent years?

1:18:19 Martin Basiri's 5 toolkits for entrepreneurs

We sat down in March 2026 to break down the two most important companies in AI. This episode is a full deep dive into Anthropic and OpenAI, comparing everything from corporate structure and revenue models to business strategy, research philosophy, and the politics shaping both companies. We cover the founding stories, the safety vs scale debate, enterprise adoption, fundraising dynamics, the Pentagon ban, and where both companies are headed next. Whether you're a builder, investor, or just following the AI race closely, this is the episode.

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0:00 Introduction

49:03 Iran

3:16 Anthropic vs OpenAI summary 

4:29 Revenue Chart 

7:12 Story Behind OpenAI and Deepmind

12:27 Political Motivation Behind Anthropic, Effective Alterism

13:00 Why did Amodei leave OpenAI?

13:22 Anthropic Co-founders

14:25 When did the war begin?

16:00 Anthropic fundraising story 

17:00 Open Philanthropy in the story? 

18:22 Consumer vs Enterprise? 

20:32 google did favor? 

23:08 Why is Anthropic in love with regulations? 

23:53 Anthropic is the master of regulatory capture 

24:20 Bill Gurley about the Anthropic 

25:22 Anthropic Legal team is from the Government? 

25:58 How Anthropic when the government contracts?

31:18 Claude Code vs Codex?

31:56 Focus

37:50 Skill

39:44 Financial Analysis

43:39 OpenClaw

44:25 OpenClaw Stat

47:33 Codex App

51:43 Amodei Risk Strategy

59:29 Add for OpenAI

1:0:13 Department of War

1:04:00 Contract with Department of War 

1:08:58 OpenAI risks

1:15:18 OpenAI and Private Equity

1:17:38 Iranian Anthropic Board Member 

References : 

https://openai.com/index/introducing-openai/

https://www.acquired.fm/episodes/google-the-ai-company

https://issuu.com/pomfretschool/docs/spring_2023_magazine/s/21821582#:~:text=In%20July%202015%2C%20a%20handful,start%2Dup%20incubator%20Y%20Combinator.

https://www.acquired.fm/episodes/google-the-ai-company

https://mindmatters.ai/2024/09/silicon-valleys-trendy-ethic-effective-altruism/

https://fortune.com/2025/12/02/daniela-amodei-anthropic-cofounder-claude-openai/

https://www.anthropic.com/news/anthropic-raises-series-b-to-build-safe-reliable-ai

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_AfZ6J0ToE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3YpC4Dvzso

https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabeth-kelly-dc/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/holden-karnofsky-75970b7/

https://www.marketingaiinstitute.com/blog/dario-amodei-ai-entry-level-jobs

https://www.anthropic.com/news/model-context-protocol

https://www.linkedin.com/in/farzam-hejazi-5b608081/

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/06/anthropic-deloitte-enterprise-ai.html

https://myclaw.ai/?utm_source=ggzhuan&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=23639453985&gbraid=0AAAABCxkYQOeGOrIKZhTFpHNFSyzzRfOj&gclid=CjwKCAjwspPOBhB9EiwATFbi5FOiQupWtKzL_0mzKzlnKUaEaKbKYrJ748p8hDKoqXCu_PE08pp5BRoCWsIQAvD_BwE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1E9IZfvGMA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzwRflcLPAAZZ

https://www.vccircle.com/openaijoins-anthropic-in-courting-private-equity-firms-for-enterprise-ai-venture

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kLQXX76rEI&list=PLey29VA1L5hkYHI-J6R2emxTtiSLnsVmn

https://www.linkedin.com/in/yasminrazavi/

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Why will Google & NVIDIA struggle next year? We're celebrating the best Iranian AI scientists, roboticists, VCs & startups while revealing what's coming in 2026.

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0:00 Introduction

3:04 Best AI Scientist of the Year

10:03 Best Roboticist of the Year 

13:46 Best Robotic Startup of the year

16:25 Best Venture Capitalist of the year 

33:08 Best none AI Business

38:19 Best CEO of the Year 

42:06 Best AI Model or Product

48:49 Best Female in Tech or Investment 

50:19 Best Podcast Episode of the year 

52:01 Most Two Important Trends in 2026  

References: 

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2501.00663

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2505.23735

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX12aCdni9Q

https://www.linkedin.com/in/vahab-mirrokni-49774112/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/alibehrouz/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jux_L-Re5JA 

https://www.linkedin.com/in/vahdat/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/pouransari/

https://www.arxiv.org/pdf/2510.02375

https://www.linkedin.com/in/alikashani/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNsj3nfkTHQ&t=1s&pp=ygUXVG91cmFqIFBhcmFuZyBTZWNvbmRQb2Q%3D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOC7X9lfb1k

https://www.linkedin.com/in/brettadcock/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/dorsa-sadigh-6988581a/

https://x.com/dorsasadigh/status/1899981257427313037?s=46

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_Early_Career_Award_for_Scientists_and_Engineers

https://www.figure.ai

https://www.linkedin.com/in/cbfinn/

https://www.worldlabs.ai

https://joincolossus.com/article/ramtin-naimi-man-hot-hand/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEICTvGNKrY

https://medium.com/@annayeleferenko1995/how-cursor-anysphere-became-a-29-3b-company-in-just-a-few-years-eaf693674ef7

https://neo.com/startups

https://www.institutionalinvestor.com/article/2bsx50dfm3p7vduehik8w/culture/the-unusual-ambitions-of-chamath-palihapitiya

Ramtin N. - San Francisco Bay Area | Professional Profile | LinkedInlinkedin.com

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nvidia-acquires-ai-chip-startup-150217099.html

https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod/video/7335094802742054186

https://open.substack.com/pub/chamath/p/the-future-of-ai-compute-a-conversation?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UneoszmxRGg

https://www.linkedin.com/in/mohsenmoazami/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/sundeepm/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Ahmed

https://www.forbes.com/profile/adam-foroughi/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Amiri

https://code.claude.com/docs/en/overview

https://youtu.be/38YCBtzWptU?si=UJPqZc3RWqgOe_pH

https://www.liquid.ai/team/ramin-hasani

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https://www.sparkcapital.com/team-members/yasmin-razavi

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