What if the system isn’t broken — but just missing heart?

In this powerful episode, I sit down with Nancy McMurtry, Director of Development at Courage Rains — a nonprofit in Highland, Utah, that’s rewriting the rules of healing through equine-assisted therapy.

Nancy opens up about the raw, beautiful, and often complicated journey of adoption — including the emotional depths of adopting her sons, Liam and Eli. She doesn't shy away from the hard parts: the wait, the uncertainty, the heartbreak. But she also reveals the unshakable power of open adoption, and why her family’s decision to become certified foster parents wasn’t heroic — it was human.

We also dive into the life-changing work happening at Courage Rains, where therapy isn’t done in sterile rooms — it’s done in pastures, alongside horses, hope, and holy ground. As they gear up for their annual fundraising gala, Nancy reminds us: healing looks different than most people expect — and sometimes the most overlooked methods are the most miraculous.

This episode is a challenge to conventional thinking — and a love letter to every child, every family, and every horse who's been part of the healing.

What happens when a mother refuses to accept the world’s definition of worth? In this powerful episode, Laura Belk shares what it means to go against cultural norms, medical advice, and societal expectations in the name of love, truth, and advocacy. As a mother of nine—four with special needs—Laura opens up about the heartbreak and hope of raising children who the world often devalues. She takes us behind the scenes of Nurturing Nations, the nonprofit working to dismantle dangerous beliefs in Ghana, where children with disabilities are sometimes seen as curses rather than blessings.

Laura’s story is not just about adoption or disability—it’s about the radical act of believing every life is valuable, even when systems, traditions, and even doctors say otherwise. From adopting the first child with Down syndrome out of Ghana, to confronting the medical community’s bias against children with chromosomal differences, Laura invites us to see disability not as a deficit, but as a divine difference.

This conversation will challenge you to rethink what it means to be “normal,” to question the narratives we’re handed, and to discover the unexpected beauty that exists when we dare to embrace every kind of diversity.

Brace yourself for a raw and unapologetic conversation that challenges the way we think about adoption, faith, and family. In this episode of the See the Miracle podcast, host Brady Murray sits down with Tanna Roush—a mother of nine, including six adopted children—to discuss the radical, transformative power of love and commitment. Tanna doesn’t sugarcoat the reality: adoption is messy, heartbreaking, and not for the faint of heart. But for those brave enough to step up, the rewards are profound.

Tanna’s story is one of faith put to the test—a journey that began with a simple, gut-wrenching prayer for God to break her heart for what breaks His. From the orphanages of China to the bustling streets of Bulgaria, Tanna and her husband found themselves called to rescue children that the world too often overlooks—children with special needs, abandoned and forgotten. She doesn’t hold back about the brutal truths of neglect in orphanages or the physical and emotional scars that her children carried home with them.

But Tanna’s message is clear: just because it’s hard doesn’t mean it’s not worth it. And maybe—just maybe—more families should be stepping up, even when it feels uncomfortable or inconvenient. Love doesn’t come with guarantees, and neither does adoption. But Tanna’s conviction is unwavering: every child deserves a family willing to fight for them. Whether you’re considering adoption, feeling called to advocate, or just curious about what real commitment looks like, this episode will challenge your assumptions and dare you to reconsider your capacity to love.

Rewriting the Narrative on Adoption and Down Syndrome

In this thought-provoking episode of the See the Miracle podcast, host Brady Murray sits down with Whittney Moody, a fearless advocate for individuals with Down syndrome and adoption. Whittney shares how she and her husband Michael always dreamed of adopting—but it wasn’t until the birth of their son, Jude, who has Down syndrome, that they truly understood the deeper meaning of acceptance and belonging. Their journey led them to adopt Max, another child with special needs, creating an unbreakable bond between their sons and reshaping the lives of everyone in their family.

But here’s the controversial truth: society often views children with disabilities as burdens rather than gifts. Whitney challenges this mindset, proving that love, resilience, and a strong community can turn what many see as limitations into extraordinary opportunities. From an affirming hospital experience after Jude’s birth to the powerful impact of her uncle with Down syndrome, Whittney’s perspective is one that more people need to hear—whether they’re ready for it or not.

Through performances at UGA Miracle and daily acts of service, Max and Jude are not just living with their diagnoses—they are rewriting the narrative. This episode will make you question outdated beliefs about disability, family, and the true meaning of inclusion. Are you willing to see the miracle?

Redefining Family: The Hard Truth About Adoption, Faith, and the Fight for Hope

In this eye-opening episode of See the Miracle, Brady Murray sits down with Melissa Tubergen, co-founder of Give Hope Ministries, to explore the raw and often uncomfortable realities of adoption and foster care. Far from the romanticized narratives, Melissa shares the deep challenges of adopting older children, the trauma they carry, and the delicate process of building trust in a world that has often let them down.

Melissa doesn’t sugarcoat it—adoption isn’t just about saving children; it’s about stepping into brokenness, embracing the unknown, and being willing to confront your own limitations. Through faith and resilience, her family has created a home where every child—regardless of background—can find healing, purpose, and a place to serve others through ‘missional spaces.’ But the journey isn’t easy. It exposes personal and relational struggles, demands relentless patience, and requires parents to prioritize their own self-care to avoid burnout.

This episode challenges us to ask: Do we truly understand what it takes to love unconditionally? Or are we only willing to embrace the idea of adoption when it’s convenient?

In this powerful and thought-provoking episode, Brady Murray sits down with Sarah, the dynamic "Excitement Officer" at the Caritas Aregak Foundation in Armenia.

Sarah’s journey is anything but ordinary—what started as a personal quest to reconnect with her Armenian roots became a radical mission to challenge the status quo for children with disabilities.

From the heartbreaking realities faced by Armenian families raising children with special needs to the bold, game-changing solutions being pioneered by the foundation, this conversation doesn’t shy away from controversy.

Why are so many children with disabilities still hidden from society? What role does business—rather than charity—play in social change? And how can listeners take real action instead of just feeling inspired?

Get ready for a conversation that will challenge your perspective, ignite your passion, and prove that real change starts with the courage to disrupt outdated systems.

Family Transitions: Embracing Change, Letting Go, and Defying Expectations

In this thought-provoking episode ofSee the Miracle, our hosts, Brady & Andrea, pull back the curtain on the raw, emotional, and often unpredictable nature of family transitions. They share the deeply personal stories of their daughter Rocio uprooting her life to live with a relative in Wyoming, Sandra navigating the high-pressure world of boarding school, and their eldest daughter Brynlee embarking on an 18-month mission in Chile—each of them stepping into the unknown, armed only with faith and resilience.

But it’s not just about the children. Brady & Andrea reveal their own seismic life shift: walking away from a long-held career to embrace a future filled with uncertainty and possibility. They openly discuss the pressures of raising 11 children in a world that often questions large families, challenging conventional ideas about success, sacrifice, and the pursuit of personal dreams.

This episode is a must-listen for anyone facing change—whether it's sending a child off to a new chapter, leaving behind a familiar life, or simply questioning what it means todo the right thing. Buckle up for an honest, inspiring, and controversial discussion on faith, family, and forging your own path against all odds.

🔹Is embracing change an act of faith or a reckless leap?
🔹Can you truly support every child’s unique journey in a family of 11?
🔹When is it time to walk away from a career you’ve built for decades?

Listen now and decide for yourself.

Episode Breakdown:
00:00 – Welcome & The Truth About Change
00:23 – Rocio’s Unexpected Move: A Family Divided?
04:46 – Sandra’s High-Stakes School Shift
13:49 – The Emotional Toll of Constant Transitions
18:45 – Retiring: Brave Decision or Midlife Crisis?
22:50 – What’s Next? The Road Ahead
26:10 – Closing Thoughts & Unanswered Questions

Are you ready to challenge everything you thought you knew about family, faith, and change? Tune in.

In this electrifying episode ofSee the Miracle, host Brady Murray sits down with Amanda and Bryce Wurdeman, a family of nine who have shattered societal norms to embrace a life of radical love, advocacy, and unwavering faith. Their journey—adopting two children with Down syndrome, immersing themselves in global missionary work, and challenging the world’s perception of disability—is nothing short of extraordinary.

But their path hasn’t been easy. They expose the raw realities of adoption, the systemic barriers that make it nearly impossible for children with special needs to find families, and the uncomfortable truth about how society undervalues those with disabilities. With unapologetic passion, they challenge listeners to rethink what it truly means to be pro-life, to love without limits, and to fight for those who are too often forgotten.

Prepare to be moved, inspired, and maybe even a little uncomfortable—because real change starts with hard conversations.

In this gripping episode of See the Miracle, Brady Murray talks to fashion designer and first-time single mom, Joanna Gott, who shares her transformative journey to adopt her daughter, Penelope, from China. After a painful divorce and career setbacks, Joanna’s dream of motherhood grew stronger as she faced unimaginable challenges—none more daunting than the COVID-19 pandemic, which delayed her adoption plans for years.

Joanna opens up about the emotional, logistical, and cultural hurdles of international adoption, as well as the raw realities of becoming a single mom. She reflects on her first year with Penelope and the hope that one day, her daughter will become an advocate for other children in need of loving homes. This is a powerful, no-holds-barred look at the complexities of adoption, resilience, and the life-changing power of family.

In this candid post-holiday episode of See the Miracle, hosts Andrea and Brady reveal the unspoken challenges and harsh realities of adopting children from Colombia. They discuss the emotional complexities of family dynamics, from birth order shifts to cultural clashes and the surprising difficulties of integrating their adopted children.

Reflecting on their daughter Rocio’s transition to living with relatives, they confront their naive assumptions about adoption.

The episode also highlights their daughter Brynlee's role as a unifying force in the family as she prepares for her LDS mission. Brady and Andrea end on a note of optimism, emphasizing patience, adaptability, and the ongoing work of building a blended family.