It’s been 18 months since the leaders of Australia, the United Kingdom, and the United States, announced the AUKUS deal, which includes an agreement that the US and the UK will assist Australia in acquiring nuclear-powered submarines. You may be familiar with the persistent and determined advocacy of Western Australian Greens Senator Jordon Steele-John against the deal. I interviewed Senator Jordon so we could have a more in depth discussion on AUKUS and the ramifications of the nuclear submarines deal for Australia.