In this reflective episode, Julia sits down with Brian as he looks back on the formative moments that shaped his life. From a childhood grounded in structure and the classic “stiff upper lip” resilience taught by his mother, to an unexpected conversation that changed the course of his career, Brian shares the quiet milestones that defined him.

He talks about growing up in a time when discipline was love, when fairness mattered more than fuss, and how his early years laid the foundation for a long, successful career in civil engineering. That career didn’t just teach him how to build—it taught him how to navigate life’s obstacles with calm and capability.

With warmth and understated humour, Brian recounts how a detour from bricklaying led him into the orbit of a different world—one filled with new experiences and surprising opportunities, from sailing to flying.

This is a conversation rich in nostalgia, full of life lessons, and a reminder that the most remarkable journeys often begin with the most ordinary decisions.