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  • Post-COVID pay cuts and Jay-Z's love chat
    CMU’s Andy Malt and Chris Cooke review key events in music and the music business from the last week, including Live Nation's planned changes to artist agreements post-COVID that will mean performers receiving lower fees and taking on more risk, plus Jay-Z and Beyonce being sued for allegedly using a spoken word recording on their track 'Black Effect' without permission.

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    01: Artists face lower pay, higher risks for live shows post-COVID (00:02:59)
    02: Jay-Z and Beyonce sued of ‘Black Effect’ spoken word section (00:18:31)
    STORIES DISCUSSED THIS WEEK
    • Live Nation memo confirms promoters want artists to share the risk when the live industry swings back into action
    • Beyonce and Jay-Z sued over Black Effect monologue

    ALSO MENTIONED
    • EMI Records is “reborn”
    • The 40 year old Virgin announces birthday plans (2013 report)

    MORE FROM CMU
    • Get notified with the new ‘Dissecting The Digital Dollar’ book is out
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    28 min
  • The 'urban' music debate and takedowns on Twitch
    CMU’s Andy Malt and Chris Cooke review key events in music and the music business from the last week, including the debate about the use of the word ‘urban’ to categorise music that has seen Republic Records and the Grammys drop or cut back the use of the term, and Twitch’s latest run-in with the music industry. Setlist is sponsored by 7digital.

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    01: The ‘urban’ music debate (00:02:20)
    02: Twitch takedowns (00:17:05)

    STORIES DISCUSSED THIS WEEK
    • Republic stops using the word ‘urban’ to describe music
    • Grammys update award names and nomination rules in a bid to address racism and corruption accusations
    • Twitch reports sudden “influx” of takedown requests as prolific users hit out a copyright claims and channel ban threats

    ALSO MENTIONED
    • CMA demands “clear-cut solution” from Viagogo for its concerns over StubHub deal
    • Black Music Coalition sets out five priorities to tackle discrimination in the UK music industry
    • One Little Indian changes name due to “harmful stereotyping and exploitation of indigenous peoples’ culture”
    • Colston Hall provides update on rebrand after its controversial namesake becomes headline news
    • Lady Antebellum change name due to association with slave trade
    • Gamers debate copyright claims as labels issue takedowns against Twitch (2018 report)
    • Amazon upgrades digital locker service (2012 report)

    MORE FROM CMU
    • Get notified with the new ‘Dissecting The Digital Dollar’ book is out
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    29 min
  • Black Out Tuesday, Eight Mile Style
    CMU’s Andy Malt and Chris Cooke review key events in music and the music business from the last week, including the music industry's Black Out Tuesday shutdown in solidarity with the Black Lives Matter movement, and the latest twist in the legal battle between Spotify and Eminem's publishing company Eight Mile Style. Setlist is sponsored by 7digital.

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    01: Black Out Tuesday (00:02:22)
    02: Eight Mile Style (00:20:23)
    STORIES DISCUSSED THIS WEEK
    • Music community rallies around Black Out Tuesday initiative amid global Black Lives Matter protests
    • Black Out Tuesday was just Act One, campaigners insist
    • Universal Music sets out the agenda of its Taskforce For Meaningful Change
    • Spotify pulls Kobalt into its legal spat with Eminem’s publisher

    ALSO MENTIONED
    • Share price surges after Warner Music’s $1.9 billion IPO

    MORE FROM CMU
    • Get notified with the new ‘Dissecting The Digital Dollar’ book is out
    • CMU’s Lockdown Webinars
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    29 min
  • StubHub and blanket licences for the whole internet
    CMU’s Andy Malt and Chris Cooke review key events in music and the music business from the last week, including the latest lawsuit against StubHub over its COVID-19 refund policy and the departure of its president, and the proposal by the Electronic Frontier Foundation for a compulsory licence covering all uses of music online. Setlist is sponsored by 7digital.

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    01: StubHub lawsuit and deaprture of its president (00:04:37)
    02: Blanket licence for the internet (00:16:57)

    STORIES DISCUSSED THIS WEEK
    • StubHub faces class action in Canada too over its COVID-19 refunds policy
    • StubHub President stands down
    • A Plan to Pay Artists, Encourage Competition, and Promote Free Expression (EFF.org)

    ALSO MENTIONED
    • Warner Music officially launches its IPO
    • Worst. Deal. Ever. (Forbes)
    • Dissecting The Digital Dollar

    MORE FROM CMU
    • Get notified with the new ‘Dissecting The Digital Dollar’ book is out
    • CMU’s Lockdown Webinars
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    46 min
  • Safe harbours and 6ix9ine's chart battle battle
    CMU’s Andy Malt and Chris Cooke review key events in music and the music business from the last week, including the publication (finally) of the US Copyright Office's report based on its review of the safe harbour that sits in America’s Digital Millennium Copyright Act, and 6ix9ine’s beef with Ariana Grande over her US chart position. Setlist is sponsored by 7digital.

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    01: US Copyright Office safe harbour report (00:03:38)
    02: 6ix9ine v Ariana Grande (00:24:00)

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    STORIES DISCUSSED THIS WEEK
    • US Copyright Office finally publishes its safe harbour report, music industry sets out its copyright gripes
    • Billboard denies 6ix9ine’s claims that Ariana Grande fraudulently beat him to number one in the Hot 100
    • Ariana Grande and Justin Bieber deny 6ix9ine’s claims they bought US number one position

    ALSO MENTIONED
    • ERA boss on the #FixStreaming debate: “You don’t mend a #BrokenRecord by smashing the record player”
    • You don’t mend a #BrokenRecord by smashing the record player (ERA blog post)
    • Full US Copyright Office report
    • Setlist: Charity chart battles
    • Nicki Minaj v Travis Scott (and his baby)
    • DJ Khaled could sue Billboard over chart position
    • Peter Hook admits forging Ian Curtis’s signature (The Guardian)

    MORE FROM CMU
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    • CMU’s Lockdown Webinars
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    39 min
  • The ten things people get wrong about streaming - part 2
    In the second part of this special edition of the show, this week CMU’s Andy Malt and Chris Cooke again examine the debate around the fairness of streaming royalties for artists and songwriters, which has been growing during the COVID-19 shutdown. We discuss the second half of our ten point list of things people often misunderstand or don't know about streaming, and what they need to know in order to win the argument. Setlist is sponsored by 7digital.

    SECTION TIMES
    00:12:24 There has already been a re-slicing of the pie – the song share on a stream is often double that on a CD. The fact many songwriters aren’t seeing the benefit is a major concern
    00:19:19 With the artist share, we probably need to consider new artists, heritage artists and session musicians separately
    00:24:40 Applying ER to streams sounds good but would be complicated
    00:28:40 User-centric royalty distribution probably wouldn’t have as big an impact as everyone thinks – though it’s still attractive
    00:34:10 Bad music rights data makes fixing these issues so much harder
    STORIES DISCUSSED THIS WEEK
    • Musicians’ Union and Ivors Academy call for government intervention to “fix streaming”
    • The ten things people get wrong about streaming – Part One

    ALSO MENTIONED
    • Digital Dollar Guide: Song Royalties Guide
    • Setlist: Deezer user-centric royalties episode
    • Setlist: Streaming scams episode
    • Get notified with the new ‘Dissecting The Digital Dollar’ book is out
    • CMU’s Lockdown Webinars
    • Sign up to receive the CMU Daily news bulletin

    40 min
  • The ten things people get wrong about streaming - part 1
    In a deviation from the normal format, this CMU’s Andy Malt and Chris Cooke examine the debate around the fairness of streaming royalties for artists and songwriters, which has been growing during the COVID-19 shutdown. Over the next two episodes, we'll be discussing the ten things people often get wrong about streaming, and what they need to know in order to win the argument. Setlist is sponsored by 7digital.

    SECTION TIMES
    00:09:37 There are no per-stream rates
    00:18:06 A million streams isn't as much as it sounds
    00:21:09 It is almost certainly time to review subscription prices - though probably not in the middle of a global pandemic
    00:33:37 Re-slicing the pie so songwriters get more is complicated
    00:37:17 The US is different, because it's always different

    STORIES DISCUSSED THIS WEEK
    • IFPI confirms recorded music market grew 8.2% in 2019

    ALSO MENTIONED
    • Tom Gray, Gomez (Twitter thread)
    • Tim Burgess, The Charlatans (Twitter thread)
    • Spotify should pay musicians more? Let’s talk more about how (Stuart Dredge - Music Ally)
    • BrokenRecord? Using the COVID-19 crisis to re-evaluate streaming shares (Annabella Coldrick, MMF - Medium)
    • CMU’s Lockdown Webinars
    • Sign up to receive the CMU Daily news bulletin



    41 min
  • The future of live music, charity chart battles
    CMU’s Andy Malt and Chris Cooke review key events in music and the music business from the last week, including new research into what the future music look like for live music after lockdown, plus the ressurgence of charity singles as the Live Lounge Allstars knock Captain Tom off number one in the UK singles chart. Setlist is sponsored by 7digital.

    00:03:56 Live music research
    00:18:57 Charity singles

    STORIES DISCUSSED THIS WEEK
    • Only 40% of American sport and music fans say they’ll rush back to live events once COVID-19 restrictions are lifted
    • New interest in livestreamed gigs looks likely to outlive COVID-19 shutdown, says UTA
    • Captain Tom goes to number one following Weeknd intervention – Stay Home Live Lounge on course for top spot this week
    • Chris Martin, Dua Lipa and more contribute to BBC’s Stay Home Live Lounge
    • Foo Fighters donate Stay Home Live Lounge royalties to charity, while BBC’s drumming weatherman forms a virtual band
    • Dave Grohl thanks BBC, as Times Like These charity cover battles with The Weeknd for number one

    ALSO MENTIONED
    • Saudi Arabia buys 5% of Live Nation
    • Justin Bieber walking into a door
    • CMU's Lockdown Webinars
    • Sign up to receive the CMU Daily news bulletin
    • Buy the Dissecting The Digital Dollar book

    35 min
  • Ticketmaster refunds, Mixcloud livestreaming
    CMU’s Andy Malt and Chris Cooke review key events in music and the music business from the last week, including the class action lawsuit against Ticketmaster over allegations it changed its terms on refunds after the COVID-19 shutdown began, and Mixcloud’s new livestreaming option and the complicated copyright questions all these online performances raise. Setlist is sponsored by 7digital.

    00:07:21 Ticketmaster
    00:22:24 Mixcloud

    STORIES DISCUSSED THIS WEEK
    • Ticketmaster sued over COVID-19 refunds policies
    • Mixcloud unveils new live streaming functionality

    ALSO MENTIONED
    • Reed Smith’s guide to live streaming
    • CMU’s Lockdown Webinars
    • Sign up to receive the CMU Daily news bulletin
    • Buy the Dissecting The Digital Dollar book

    33 min
  • Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band, lockdown radio listening
    CMU’s Andy Malt and Chris Cooke review key events in music and the music business from the last week, including the Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band vow to close what they see as a loophole in UK trademark law that can result in bands losing control of their brands, and the positive and negative effects of COVID-19 on the commercial radio industry. Setlist is sponsored by 7digital.

    STORIES DISCUSSED THIS WEEK
    • Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band want change in the law after winning “emotionally charged” trademark dispute
    • Commercial radio listening enjoys huge ‘working from home’ boost during coronavirus lockdown (Radiocentre)
    • Commercial radio stations could close without extra government support

    ALSO MENTIONED
    • Weather presenter goes viral drumming to BBC News theme
    • Bonzo Dog Band full court judgement
    • CMU’s Lockdown Webinars
    • Sign up to receive the CMU Daily news bulletin
    • Buy the Dissecting The Digital Dollar book

    34 min

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