Daniela and Shaun explore miscommunication, cultural conditioning, and the art of listening and hearing. They talk specifically about how men and women have been taught to believe that all men want is sex while discussing ways to reprogram men and women with awareness, role modeling, and holding space.

Hear Daniela say, “This is my body and I don’t want to hug anyone and that’s okay” while Shaun says, “You cannot fix your partner. Don’t try. Just listen.” Hear as they share what they’re trying to teach their kids and what they’re trying to learn for themselves in their relationship.

Through Daniela and Shaun’s conversation, feel for yourself what messages you have received from media and society that aren’t true for you. Consider the idea that your partner’s pain—while you exacerbate it—is not about you. You are not the origin of their pain, and the idea that holding space is the greatest service you can provide for your partner and the people in your life.

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