This is a special live recording from the Conservative Party Conference in Manchester to celebrate the first year of our 'A Nation of Taxpayers' podcast.

Recorded in front of a live audience in the TPA Think Tent, podcast host Duncan Barkes is joined by TPA Chief Executive John O'Connell as they chat with Shadow Chancellor Sir Mel Stride about his planned £47billion savings policy which he had just announced.

They also discuss income tax, wealth tax and Sir Mel's taxation philosophy.

He also chats about his fondness for wild water swimming and about his unpublished novel!