Oh y'all. Today on the podcast I talk with one of my all time favorite people, Shauna Niequist. She is a bookworm, a beachbum, and a passionate gatherer of people, especially around the table. She is married to Aaron, and they live in Chicago with their sons, Henry & Mac.

She is also the New York Times bestselling author of Present Over Perfect and a few other fantastic books. Shauna and I met when we launched IF:Table a couple years ago. And I truly adore her. I know you will too.

We talk about this and more:

• When you are failing at the most important things in life.
• Administrating and caring for your children vs just being with them.
• Trying to "out responsible" other people.
• Over-valuing work life in exchange for a deep relational life.
• Bowing to the pressure to always be on.
• The fatal design flaw of hustle life-style.

All the show notes at www.susiedavis.org