On the Tomorrow’s Not Today podcast, Kingsley interviews Sally Jones about her lived experience of child abuse, complex PTSD, addiction risks, and the ongoing work of healing, and how she turned that trauma into a child protection education program after 20 years as a teacher. 

She describes gaps in school-based prevention, lack of repetition, unsustainable one-off visits, and outdated “stranger danger” messaging and argues kids need skills for real-life encounters with perpetrators, who may be family, peers, or anyone. 

Grounded in attachment theory, her online, interactive program teaches grooming behaviours, boundaries, and self-trust by noticing body signals, and includes “champions” (trusted adults) plus an in-program “switch” that alerts a designated school contact to support mandatory reporting. The conversation also addresses adult recognition of abuse, trauma’s effects on relationships and emotional regulation, imposter syndrome, and seeking professional help and trusted support.

00:00 Trigger Warning and Reality

01:29 Podcast Welcome and Purpose

03:04 Why Schools Need Better Protection

04:57 Attachment Theory and Safety

06:21 Her Story Childhood Trauma

08:15 Nursing Forensics and PTSD

11:26 Choosing Change Drugs and Alcohol

15:12 Moving to Australia and Healing

16:55 Program Teaches Grooming and Boundaries

19:35 Champions and The Safety Switch

23:23 Trauma Informed Schools and Policy

24:37 Adults Healing and Recognition

28:03 Living With Trauma Daily

29:00 Trauma Never Leaves

30:55 Choosing Your Next Step

31:25 One Small Action Daily

32:05 Legacy And Overwhelm

33:26 Beating Imposter Syndrome

36:07 Trauma Informed Practice

37:40 Tenacity And Setbacks

39:25 Retraumatization And Memories

40:26 Reach Out For Help

44:20 Masking And Fear

49:13 Understanding And Body Memory

51:54 Create Life And Legacy