Welcome to another Worship Wednesday on the Shepnaz Podcast! Today, Joe, Pastor Zach, and Pastor Noah sit down with special guest Roger McDaniel, Executive Pastor & Worship Leader at Meadow Park Church in Columbus, Ohio.

With over 33 years in ministry and decades of worship leadership experience, Roger brings deep wisdom, humility, and humor as we dive into:

• How worship has changed over the last 40 years
• “Performance” in worship — what’s healthy and what’s not
• Why excellence matters without losing authenticity
• Navigating worship styles across generations
• Creating genuine God‑encounter moments, no matter the song
• Balancing leadership, ministry load, spiritual life, and preparation
• Why sometimes the worst rehearsals lead to the best worship moments

This episode is full of real talk, encouragement, and guidance for worship leaders, pastors, and anyone longing to understand the heart behind worship.

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⏱️ Chapters

00:00 – Welcome to Worship Wednesday 00:31 – Introducing today’s guest: Roger McDaniel 01:20 – Flamingos: Real or fake? (Icebreaker) 03:06 – Roger’s ministry journey 05:24 – Executive pastor responsibilities 07:21 – Balancing worship and leadership 08:58 – Spiritual rhythms & preparing for worship 10:23 – 40 years of worship leading 11:10 – Worship wars & evolving styles 13:16 – What churches lose when style becomes the focus 14:04 – Excellence vs. performance 15:03 – Creating authentic God encounters 16:39 – Different people, different encounters 17:42 – The problem with over‑focusing on the music 18:26 – Finding your ministry’s unique voice 19:07 – Redefining “performance” in worship 20:15 – Excellence as an act of worship 21:20 – Honoring the significance of Sunday 22:43 – Audience of One 23:53 – What matters most in worship 25:47 – When God moves despite our imperfections 26:07 – Closing & thanks

In today’s episode of the Shepnaz Podcast, Pastor Rob continues our journey through the book of Exodus in our series Exodus: The Way. This conversation dives deeper into The Ten Words (often known as the Ten Commandments) and explores how they shape our lives today as followers of Jesus.Pastor Rob introduces four powerful lenses for understanding the Ten Words:How breaking a commandment takes something away from God or othersHow the commandments reveal the character of GodHow they are designed to protect usHow they are designed to provide for usYou’ll gain fresh insight into how these ancient words remain deeply relevant, pointing us toward a blessed life in Christ and guiding us into deeper love—both for God and for our neighbors.📖 Learn more and find resources at: https://shepnaz.org/shepnow🌐 Explore ministries, events, and messages at: https://shepnaz.org👇 We’d love to hear from you!Drop a comment, like the video, subscribe, and send your thoughts or questions to [email protected].⏱️ Chapters00:00 – Welcome & Introduction 00:30 – Why the Ten Words Still Matter 01:18 – Vertical and Horizontal Commandments 02:26 – Loving God & Loving Neighbor 03:52 – Jesus’ Summary of the Law 04:35 – Four Lenses for Understanding the Ten Words 05:02 – What We Take from God or Others When We Break Them 07:57 – How the Commandments Reveal God’s Character 09:11 – What God’s Laws Say About the Lawgiver 12:01 – Reflecting God’s Character as Believers 12:28 – God’s Rules: Protection & Provision 14:17 – Avoiding Bondage to Modern Idols 15:41 – Why God’s Boundaries Bring Blessing 16:05 – The Commandments as a Roadmap for Life 17:08 – Applying the Ten Words Today 17:32 – Closing & Next Steps

In today’s episode of the Shepnaz Podcast, Pastor Rob Paul unpacks this week’s message from our Exodus: The Way Through series, focusing on the Ten Commandments—better understood as the “Ten Words.”

This rich conversation explores:

• Why the Hebrew word Torah means instruction, not punishment
• How the Ten Words point us toward a blessed life
• Why relationship with God always comes before rules
• The differences between ceremonial, civil, and moral law
• How to discern which Old Testament laws apply to believers today
• Why the Ten Words still reflect God’s unchanging character
• The role of Christ in fulfilling the law

You’ll gain a deeper understanding of how God uses these Ten Words to direct our lives toward flourishing, freedom, and relationship with Him.👉 Learn more at shepnaz.org/shepnow
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00:00 – Welcome to the Shepnaz Podcast 00:22 – Why “Ten Words” instead of “Ten Commandments”? 01:03 – Hebrew vs. modern views of law 03:24 – Torah as instruction pointing to a blessed life 05:15 – God’s heart behind the law 07:07 – Grace precedes law in Scripture 08:38 – How relationship shapes obedience 11:07 – God giving the Ten Words “face to face” 12:14 – Why culture no longer values the Ten Commandments 14:35 – Rules outside relationship vs. inside relationship 16:47 – Are Old Testament laws binding today? 17:27 – Ceremonial, civil, and moral law explained 22:05 – Why the Ten Words are moral law 23:16 – Which commandments appear in the New Testament 24:55 – How to test whether a law applies today 26:59 – Law’s purpose: revealing God’s holiness and our need for Christ 27:39 – Preview of tomorrow’s episode 28:05 – Closing & next steps

In today’s Shepnaz Podcast, Pastor Nick brings us the powerful conclusion of his message from Exodus 16, reminding us how God invites His people to trust and obey—even when life tempts us to grumble.

From manna in the wilderness to Jesus declaring Himself the Bread of Life in John 6, this episode calls us to stop striving for “food that spoils” and embrace the only One who satisfies our souls: Jesus Christ.

You'll hear:✨ Why Israel’s complaints mirror our own struggles✨ How God tests us through obedience✨ Why trusting God leads to rest✨ What it means that Jesus is the Bread of Life✨ A powerful invitation to stop resisting graceWhether you’re feeling weary, frustrated, or spiritually hungry, this message will encourage your heart.🙏 Guest Featured: Pastor Nick🌐 Learn more at shepnaz.org or watch services at shepnaz.org/shepnowIf this episode blesses you, don’t forget to comment, like, and subscribe.📩 Email us anytime at [email protected].⏱️ Chapters00:00 — Welcome & Introduction 00:24 — Pastor Nick continues the message 01:18 — Trust and obey: God’s daily test 02:06 — Why manna required total dependence 02:58 — God’s desire for His people 03:35 — Ignoring God’s instructions 04:15 — The cost of disobedience 05:06 — Distrust leads to disobedience (Genesis connection) 06:11 — Trusting and obeying Jesus today 06:26 — John 6: Jesus the Bread of Life 08:26 — The call to believe 10:03 — Food that spoils vs. food that endures 11:01 — Hunger & thirst for righteousness 12:25 — What does God require? 13:16 — God’s frustration at disobedience 14:40 — Humility, trust, and obedience 15:13 — Invitation: How long will you refuse? 16:13 — Closing & Shepnaz updates

In today’s episode of the Shepnaz Podcast, Pastor Nick shares Part 1 of his powerful message in our Exodus: The Way Through: “The Bread of Life.”

What does true sustenance look like in a spiritually hungry world?
Pastor Nick walks us through the Israelites’ journey—marked by grumbling, fear, and forgetfulness—and reveals how God continually responds with grace, provision, and faithful presence.

You’ll discover:

• Why the pattern of grumble → grace matters for us today
• How manna in the wilderness points us to the provision of God
• Why trust and obedience are central to spiritual maturity
• How quickly we forget God’s blessings—and how we can remember again
• What it means to confess that “The Lord is our God”

Stick around tomorrow for Part 2 of this message!

⏱️ Chapters

00:00 – Welcome to the Shepnaz Podcast 00:26 – Introducing Part 1: “The Bread of Life” 00:53 – Israel’s history of slavery and God hearing their cries 01:38 – Moses’ calling from the burning bush 02:19 – Pharaoh’s resistance and the plagues 03:24 – The Red Sea miracle 04:10 – Journey toward the Promised Land 04:29 – Bitter water at Marah 05:06 – Reading Exodus 16 06:10 – God promises bread from heaven 07:13 – God hears the grumbling 07:35 – God’s desire for covenant relationship 08:25 – God’s consistent provision 09:15 – Pattern of grumbling 11:11 – Forgetting God’s past provision 12:16 – Self-centeredness and spiritual forgetfulness 13:29 – How quickly trust turns to grumbling 14:20 – God responds with grace 15:46 – Manna explained 16:44 – What manna tasted like 17:26 – Purpose of manna: to know that He is the Lord 18:19 – Closing and tomorrow’s conclusion

Worship Wednesday is finally BACK!
After a couple of months away, Pastors Zack and Noah return with acoustic worship, laughter, and a powerful reminder of what God is doing in and through Shepherd Church of the Nazarene.

This episode features acoustic versions of “The Blood” and “Build My Life”, along with a behind‑the‑scenes look at how these worship moments are recorded. You'll also hear about a brand‑new spiritual challenge God has placed on Pastor Zack’s heart:
👉 Write and record one original worship song every month throughout 2026 — specifically for the Shepnaz family.

From the funny catch‑ups to the deep discussions about firm foundations in Christ, this is a Worship Wednesday worth celebrating.

⏱ Chapters

00:00 Welcome back to Worship Wednesday!00:38 Catching up (haircuts, height jokes, keto, and laughter)02:00 Noah’s keto update & more laughs about “small hands”03:12 Introducing today’s worship plan03:33 Why “The Blood” is so meaningful05:34 Worship: “The Blood” (Acoustic)09:54 How Zack & Noah record worship for the podcast11:37 Using tracks to support authentic worship12:14 Why “Build My Life” matters for spiritual foundations15:46 Worship: “Build My Life” (Acoustic)20:58 A new season of writing worship for Shepnaz22:20 God’s challenge to Pastor Zack: one worship song per month24:15 Honest songwriting, journal‑prayers, and what’s “for the church”25:29 Collaborating on new original worship songs26:53 What’s coming next + staying connected at Shepnaz

In this episode of the Shepnaz Podcast, Pastor Rob continues the teaching from Exodus 19, where God prepares Israel for a transformed relationship with Him. Through thunder, fire, trembling earth, and holy boundaries, God reveals His power, His holiness, and His desire for His people to be set apart.Pastor Rob explores:

• Why God chose Israel as a kingdom of priests
• The significance of the word “IF” in the covenant
• What consecration truly means
• Why God required obedience, attention, and preparation
• The purpose of boundaries around the mountain
• How God’s presence changed everything for Israel
• How 1 Peter 2 connects today’s Christians to this same calling

This episode is a powerful reminder that the God who shook Mount Sinai is the same God who calls believers to live differently today—chosen, set apart, and entrusted with the mission of bringing God and the world together.

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Share in the comments: What stood out to you about God’s holiness in Exodus 19?

⏱️ CHAPTERS

00:00 – Welcome & Episode Setup 00:20 – Recap of the Previous Message 01:00 – God Redefines His Relationship with Israel 01:45 – Chosen People: Identity & Mission 02:30 – The Big IF: Obedience & Covenant 03:15 – Building Trust: Why God Spoke Publicly to Moses 04:00 – Leadership Credibility & Hearing from God 05:00 – Consecration: Set Apart for Holiness 06:20 – Washing Clothes & Symbolism of a New Beginning 07:30 – Old Testament Patterns of Renewal 08:10 – Boundaries Around the Mountain 09:00 – Holiness vs. Human Consequence 10:00 – God’s Nature, Not Punishment 11:30 – A Precursor to the Ten Commandments 12:00 – The Mountain Trembles: God Descends 13:10 – The Awe of God’s Power 14:20 – Called Upward: God Summons Moses 15:00 – 1 Peter 2 & Our Identity Today 16:00 – Chosen, Called, and Set Apart 17:10 – Final Encouragement & Next Steps 17:45 – Outro & Connect with ShepNaz

In today’s episode of the Shepnaz Podcast, Pastor Rob unpacks the powerful moment in Exodus 19 when God reshapes the identity and mission of His people. After 100 days in the wilderness, Israel arrives at Mount Sinai, where God reveals Himself in a new, direct, and transformative way.This conversation explores:

✨ Why God chose Mount Sinai
✨ How Israel’s relationship with God shifted at this moment
✨ The imagery of being carried on eagle’s wings
✨ What it means to be God’s treasured possession
✨ The calling to be a kingdom of priests and a holy nation
✨ How this passage anticipates the Gospel and our identity in ChristIf you're following our Exodus: The Way Through series or studying this chapter on your own, this episode brings clarity, insight, and encouragement in your walk with Jesus.📫 Questions or thoughts? Email us at: [email protected]
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⏱️ Chapters

00:00 – Welcome to the Shepnaz Podcast 00:19 – Setting the scene: Exodus 19 00:47 – Israel’s journey: 100 days out of Egypt 01:12 – How relationships grow and change 02:11 – Markers of relational intimacy 03:17 – God grows His relationship with Israel 04:02 – A direct encounter with God is coming 05:13 – God chooses Israel despite imperfections 06:05 – Why God’s choice makes people special 06:49 – Arrival at Mount Sinai 07:12 – Why Mount Sinai matters 08:02 – God’s promise at the burning bush 09:11 – Moses’ leadership affirmed 10:02 – Mount Sinai as an undefiled place 11:19 – God reveals His majesty 12:10 – Comparing Sinai to El Capitan 14:18 – Geological clues confirming Scripture 16:16 – God reminds Israel what He has done 17:12 – Eagle imagery and God’s care 18:17 – Israel pushed out of their “nest” 19:28 – A new identity for God’s people 20:05 – Identity shift: no longer slaves 20:22 – Treasured possession, priests, and a holy nation 22:11 – Agape love and chosen identity 23:10 – A kingdom of priests explained 23:55 – Israel’s mission to model God’s presence 24:18 – Tomorrow’s episode preview 24:39 – Outro and church updates

Do you ever feel inadequate or wonder if you have what it takes to live out your faith? In this episode, Pastor Noah unpacks Philippians 1:6—Paul’s powerful reminder that “He who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion.” Discover what true confidence looks like, why it’s not about self-esteem, and how sanctification shapes our identity in Christ.

We’ll explore:

• Why confidence in God—not ourselves—matters
• How to respond when you feel like you’re falling short
• The balance between being an heir of the Kingdom and a humble servant
• Practical encouragement for your spiritual journey

📖 Key Verse: Philippians 1:6
🎵 Reminder: Join us for Worship Night this Sunday at 6 PM in Gahanna!

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✅ Chapters

00:00 - Welcome & Worship Night Reminder01:06 - God’s Promise of Divine Confidence02:18 - Philippians 1:6 Explained03:25 - When You Feel Inadequate04:18 - Confidence in Him, Not Us05:10 - Sanctification & Growing Like Christ06:07 - The Danger of Overconfidence07:29 - Self-Esteem vs. God-Esteem08:53 - Wrestling with Sin & Grace10:08 - The Work Isn’t Finished Yet11:32 - Knowing Your Place in the Kingdom13:01 - The Prodigal Son Perspective13:37 - Final Thoughts & Encouragement14:07 - Connect with Us

In this episode of the Shepnaz Podcast, Pastor Kevin unpacks one of the most powerful promises in Scripture: “My grace is sufficient for you, for My power is made perfect in weakness” (2 Corinthians 12:9).

We explore:

• Why Paul’s “thorn in the flesh” matters for us today
• How God’s grace sustains us through life’s hardest seasons
• The shift from “How do I get out of this?” to “What do I get out of this?”
• Why hardships can actually deepen our faith

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If you’ve ever wondered why God doesn’t remove every struggle, this conversation will encourage and challenge you. His grace is not just enough—it’s everything.

📅 Don’t forget: Worship Night at the Gahanna Campus this Sunday, January 25th at 6 PM!

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✅ Chapters

00:00 - Welcome & Series Update00:35 - Worship Night Announcement01:20 - Today’s Promise: God’s Grace Is Sufficient02:10 - Paul’s Thorn in the Flesh Explained03:22 - Why Weakness Reveals God’s Strength04:04 - Real-Life Struggles & Dependence on God05:14 - When God’s Answer Isn’t What We Want06:08 - Why Hardships Can Be Loving07:49 - Sustaining Grace in the Storm08:44 - Paul’s Humanity & Personality10:03 - Conceit & Spiritual Arrogance12:06 - Misconceptions About Faith & Suffering13:13 - Lessons from Paul’s Thorn14:21 - Daily Reminder of God’s Grace15:14 - Changing Our Prayer Perspective15:54 - Closing Thoughts & Encouragement