Shhhhhh The Adults Are Talking

Summary :: In this episode our conversation revolves around our visit to the record store and the vinyl records haul we got. We discuss our experience at the store, the albums we found, and our thoughts on the music. Our conversation touches on topics such as nostalgia, the appeal of vinyl records, and the process of buying records in the past. Overall, it is a lighthearted and enjoyable discussion about their love for music and vinyl records. In this part of the conversation, Bad Hijabi and Robert discuss our unexpected finds at a record store and their diverse taste in music. We talk about the different genres we enjoy and the thrill of discovering old records. We also mention their desire to find specific albums, such as X-Ray Specs and John Coltrane's Blue Train. The conversation takes a brief detour as we discuss Mick Jagger's heart surgery. In this part of the conversation, we discuss the topic of heart care and the connection between music and social media. They also touch on the controversial issue of IDF soldiers burning Qurans. Our conversation then shifts to the TV show Doctor Who and the themes of dehumanization and propaganda. We emphasize the importance of understanding and not essentialising people based on labels. We also express our concerns about the influence of algorithms and echo chambers on our digital lives. Overall, we express their love for vinyl records and the joy of exploring different musical styles.

Takeaways

• Visiting a record store can be a nostalgic and enjoyable experience
• Vinyl records have a unique appeal and sound quality
• The condition and price of records can vary
• Album covers and artwork can influence purchasing decisions
• Music can evoke memories and emotions Exploring record stores can lead to unexpected and exciting finds
• Having a diverse taste in music allows for a wide range of listening experiences
• Certain albums, like X-Ray Specs and John Coltrane's Blue Train, are highly sought after by collectors
• Mick Jagger underwent a minimally invasive heart surgery and was able to resume his musical activities quickly
• Vinyl records offer a unique and enjoyable listening experience Heart care and the connection between music and social media are discussed.
• The hosts express their concerns about IDF soldiers burning Qurans and the influence of algorithms on social media.
• The TV show Doctor Who is mentioned, highlighting the themes of dehumanization and propaganda.
• The hosts emphasize the importance of understanding and not essentializing people based on labels.
• "We went to the record store and it's like, because it's been there a while and it's vintage and it's old and stuff."
• "We have to buy this."
• "We listen to most of the Dwayne Eddy, like some of the cool stuff, but some stuff is very skippy."
• "We just, we weren't expecting that. We were like, oh, hey, we'll buy one record. Walk out of the fucking record, start with like 11."
• "I think this is my favourite Roy Auburn album I've ever heard."
• "Mean Little Mama. Problem Child. These are kick-ass songs."
• "I mean, you know, he's not going to live forever, but you know, it's kind of like you got a bit of a lease on life, right?"
• "What do you think about IDF soldiers throwing Korans into the fire? What do you think about that?"
• "I haven't been on, for the sake of my psychological well-being, I haven't really been on Telegram lately because sometimes you can find a lot of that shit on Telegram."

In this episode we discusses the life and legacy of punk musician Marion Joan Elliott-Said also know as Poly Styrene. Our conversation touches on themes of identity, adolescence, and the complexities of mother-daughter relationships. It explores the impact of consumerism and the music industry on artists and the importance of attachment and privilege in upbringing. We highlight Poly Styrene's unique image and her role in opening doors for marginalized artists. From her classical training in opera and her ability to sing to her unique devotion to the DIY ethic, our conversation covers various topics related to the punk style: the influence of drugs in the punk scene, the concept of fame and success, the importance of strong attachments in childhood, and the challenges of record collecting. We touched on broader issues such as commodification, beauty standards, and the impact of technology on fame and consumption. Finally we briefly talk about the reality that Poly Styrene excelled as a artist and failed as a mother making the legacy she left her daughter, Celeste Bell, a complex one.

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Summary

In this episode [S1E5] of SHHHH The Adults Are Talking, Robert and I discuss recent incidents of anti-Semitism in Canada.

We start by discussing an anti-Semitic cartoon published by a Montreal newspaper. We explore the history of anti-Semitic imagery in vampire lore. The conversation then shifts to parliamentary votes in Canada that give symbolic victory to Hamas. We express frustration with the Canadian government's inability to condemn anti-Semitism. We discuss the cancellation of a Jewish film festival in Hamilton due to security concerns.

Our conversation wanders various topics including the controversy over a film at a film festival, the cancellation of a Jewish film, new rules for kosher slaughter, comparison to halal slaughter, the ban on kosher meat, criticism of the government and sexual education, the rise in anti-Semitic crimes, a fishing protest in New Brunswick, corruption in government contracts, the desire for a new election, and confusion over Nosferatu and Netanyahu.

We rant a bit.

We talk about Amy Hamm, who faced investigation for expressing her views, the impact of cancel culture on professionals, we mention the case of Jordan Peterson, the connection between wokeism and unhappiness, and the need for checks and balances in the political system.

Takeaways

1. Anti-Semitism continues to be a problem in Canada, as evidenced by recent incidents.

2. The use of anti-Semitic imagery in vampire lore has a long history and perpetuates harmful stereotypes.

3. The Canadian government's response to anti-Semitism is inadequate and lacks condemnation.

4. The cancellation of a Jewish film festival highlights ongoing security concerns for the Jewish community.

5. Cancel culture can have severe consequences for professionals, impacting their livelihoods and personal lives.

6. Wokeism is seen as a mental illness characterized by extreme positions, diminished empathy, and an inability to admit when one is wrong.

7. The Conservative Party in Canada has undergone a shift in identity, with some perceiving it as a rejection of traditional Laurentian-Tory values.

8. The need for checks and balances in the political system is emphasized, particularly in light of recent events.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Anti-Semitic Cartoon

03:03 The Anti-Semitic History of Vampires

05:54 Parliamentary Votes and Symbolic Victory for Hamas

12:03 Inability to Condemn Anti-Semitism

16:03 Cancellation of Jewish Film Festival

27:01 Cancellation of Jewish Film

29:01 New Rules for Kosher Slaughter

31:06 Comparison to Halal Slaughter

32:42 Anti-Semitism and Kosher Meat Ban

35:25 Criticism of Government and Sexual Education

37:18 Rise in Anti-Semitic Crimes

38:04 Fishing Protest in New Brunswick

40:08 Corruption in Government Contracts

44:08 Desire for New Election

46:12 Lack of Confidence in Current Government

48:20 Confusion over Nosferatu and Netanyahu

49:28 Relief that Canada is not like America

50:08 Nurse Amy's Case

51:28 Targeted Complaints

52:24 Legal Support

53:30 Cancel Culture

54:01 Consequences of Speech

56:30 Jordan Peterson's Case

57:22 Ethical Obligations

58:14 New Problems, Old Solutions

59:54 Unhappiness and Wokeness

01:00:45 Wokeism as a Mental Illness

01:03:19 Wokeism vs. Ideology

01:05:09 Conservative Party Identity

01:06:50 Regional Divisions

01:09:07 Motion on Recognizing Palestine

01:11:15 Potential Non-Confidence Vote

01:13:39 NDP's Unpopular Policies

01:15:38 Investigation into Hamas

01:19:44 Need for Checks and Balances

Summary

In this conversation, the hosts discuss the movie 'Zone of Interest' and its portrayal of the Holocaust. They explore the differences between this movie and 'Schindler's List', highlighting the absence of violence and the focus on the collapse of German society. They delve into the banality of evil and the moral disconnect of the characters. The hosts also analyze the fascination with flowers and the unsettling reality of living on site at a concentration camp. They discuss the response to atrocities and the sinister feel of the movie. Finally, they examine the symbolism of the wall and gate in the film. This conversation explores the use of sound in the film 'The Zone of Interest' and delves into the moral collapse of German society during the Holocaust. The chapters cover topics such as the contrasting scenes in the film, the importance of sound, the challenge of sound editing, and the impact of sound on the viewer. The conversation also touches on the politicization of the Holocaust, the banality of evil, and the denial and distortion of history. It concludes with a discussion on the revival of Nazism and the need to confront denial and learn from history.

Takeaways

• The movie 'Zone of Interest' offers a different perspective on the Holocaust, focusing on the collapse of German society and the moral disconnect of the characters.
• The banality of evil is explored, showing how ordinary people can participate in atrocities without fully comprehending the consequences.
• The film highlights the unsettling reality of living on site at a concentration camp and the ability to compartmentalize the horrors of the camp from everyday life.
• The movie uses symbolism, such as the wall and gate, to represent the separation between life and death.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background

02:18 The Difference from Schindler's List

03:32 The Collapse of German Society

06:33 The Banality of Evil

08:06 The Moral Disconnect

10:02 The Fascination with Flowers

11:39 Living on Site

13:16 The Response to Atrocities

19:36 The Little Girl and the Soundtrack

22:30 The Villa at the Edge of the Death Camp

26:45 The Menacing Wall and Gate

27:31 The Garden of Hell

28:14 Building the Sound Library

28:50 The Importance of Sound

31:19 The Power of Sound

32:12 Contrasting Scenes

33:14 The Sounds of Horror

34:21 Creating a Comprehensive Sound Library

35:31 The Challenge of Sound Editing

36:43 The Impact of Sound

39:31 The Moral Collapse of German Society

43:35 Politicizing the Holocaust

45:50 The Banality of Evil

49:31 Living in Denial

51:22 Lessons from History

52:16The Architects of Genocide

56:29The Revival of Nazism

58:37 Denial and Distortion

Summary

The conversation covers various topics including the case of Shamima Begum, the involvement of intelligence agencies, citizenship and statelessness, the situation in northern Syria, double standards, and Trudeau's actions in Ukraine. The conversation covers various topics including the export of military supplies, the lack of military aid, the need for action, the role of Quebec and Vancouver, surveillance and monitoring, the desire to go west, the two-state solution, Trudeau's appeal and the Emergency Measures Act, the theatrics of political actions, thoughtlessness and evil, parenting and involvement, and record stores and collecting vinyl. This conversation explores various themes, including the love for bookstores and record stores, the impact of parental legacy, the challenges of coming to terms with the actions of parents, and the importance of understanding people's upbringing. It also delves into the experiences of children of Nazis and the burden they carry, as well as the controversy surrounding trigger warnings and the denial of history. The conversation concludes with reflections on personal stories and the challenges of parenthood.

Takeaways

• The case of Shamima Begum raises questions about citizenship and the treatment of individuals who join extremist groups at a young age.
• The involvement of intelligence agencies in trafficking minors and the lack of accountability is concerning.
• The situation in northern Syria and the treatment of displaced people raises ethical and humanitarian concerns.
• Double standards in how different individuals are treated based on their background and ethnicity are evident in various contexts.
• Trudeau's actions in Ukraine highlight the complexities of international relations and the need for diplomatic efforts in conflict zones. Bookstores and record stores hold a special place in people's hearts, providing comfort and a sense of nostalgia.
• Coming to terms with the actions of parents can be a complex and challenging process, but it is important to humanize them and recognize their flaws.
• Understanding people's upbringing and the experiences that shaped them is crucial for developing empathy and compassion.
• The controversy surrounding trigger warnings and the denial of history highlights the need for open dialogue and a balanced approach to sensitive topics.

In our second episode, Robert and I talk about the ongoing reaction to Tucker Carlson, in the context of the murder of Alexei Navalny. We talk about good fascist dictators and bad fascist dictators, we talk about cold war paranoia and the way we mock spycraft in our entertainment media. Do we need spycraft to have nation states? How do we handle fascist dictators? We talk about the OTHER monarchy the actual inconvenient truth. This is a whimsical and wandering and lighthearted conversation with some smart stuff and a bit of profanity tossed in.

Welcome to Shhhh The Adults Are Talking, our inaugural episode! Woot. In this episode Robert and I talk about that thing on the minds of many, Tucker Carlson goes to Russia, Tucker Carlson interviews Putin. What do you think about The Interview? Did you like it? Hate it? Meh? Do you think Tucker gave Putin a platform to purvey his bullsh1t? Do you think Tucker did well to allow Putin to carry on? Who is Putin? Does he have a brand? Does he have an end game, choosing now and choosing Tucker? We spend 90 minutes talking about Tucker and Putin, and the intense reaction to the characters and their interaction.