How do leaders stay calm, compliant, and effective when everything is on the line, and turn crisis into a catalyst for growth? In this episode of Shift & Thrive, Natalie sits down with Joe Campanella, CEO of Complily, to unpack what it truly means to lead through extreme pressure. Joe shares the behind-the-scenes reality of navigating an 18-month FTC investigation, the leadership lessons forged during uncertainty, and how that experience ultimately sparked the creation of an AI-powered compliance platform. The conversation spans leadership under fire, letting go as you scale, building resilient go-to-market strategies, and using AI to reduce risk while improving customer trust.

Takeaways:

• Leading through crisis requires calm, clarity, and communication. When everything feels chaotic, the strongest leaders are the ones who slow the room down, give clear direction, and keep teams aligned around what matters most in the moment.
• You don’t get out of hard moments by avoiding them. Joe reinforces that the only way out is through. Breaking overwhelming challenges into smaller, manageable steps and focusing on progress one day at a time.
• Letting go is a prerequisite for scale. As companies grow, leaders must be willing to hand off responsibilities once someone else can do the job well enough, even if it’s not perfect.
• Go-to-market focus starts with knowing exactly who you serve. Trying to sell to everyone dilutes momentum; defining a clear ICP creates repeatable, scalable growth.
• AI is a force multiplier when used beyond surface-level tasks. Tools like AI-driven compliance review and knowledge synthesis free leaders to focus on strategy rather than manual oversight.

Links:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joe-campanella-aa33382/  
• Website: https://www.complily.com/ 
• Email: [email protected]  

Ways to Tune In:

• Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2D1YbT2QhKxIwbREpU7EMb 
• Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/id1740828813 
• Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/fa60b654-1955-4055-93df-fdd40c2a5c8f/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change 
• iHeart Radio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-shift-thrive-ceo-insights-166792501 
• Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/shift-and-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/PC:1001086797  

This show is sponsored by Magnetude Consulting, bringing you the thinking-Power of a Growth Consultancy and the Getting-It-Done Power of a full-service B2B Marketing Agency. 

Learn more at: https://www.magnetudeconsulting.com 

What changes when a COO becomes CEO? In this episode of Shift & Thrive, Natalie Nathanson sits down with Monique McDonough, CEO of WorkTango, to explore the unexpected lessons of stepping into the top seat, the emotional realities of leadership, and what it really takes to guide organizations through change. With more than two decades of experience across consulting, technology, and employee engagement, Monique shares candid reflections on how the weight of leadership evolves, why curiosity is a CEO’s most underrated skill, and how leaders can stay grounded while navigating AI disruption, M&A transitions, and shifting workforce expectations. 

Takeaways:

• Leadership carries weight beyond meetings and tasks. CEOs shoulder responsibility even when they’re not actively working, making balance and pressure management essential.
• Curiosity is a leadership superpower. Asking better questions builds confidence in unfamiliar areas and leads to stronger decision-making.
• The CEO role changes how words land. Even familiar leaders must become more deliberate as people assign greater meaning to every message.
• Effective change management is emotional, not just logical. People need empathy, context, and a clear vision of what success looks like.
• Feedback only works when it’s closed-loop. Listening, acting, and communicating progress builds trust and sustained engagement.
• Staying close to customers fuels a smarter strategy. Direct conversations uncover insights that no filtered report can replace.
• AI works best as a thought partner. Used intentionally, it accelerates preparation, insight, and higher-order thinking without replacing human judgment.

Links:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/moniquemmcdonough/ 
• Website: https://www.worktango.com/ 

Ways to Tune In:

• Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2D1YbT2QhKxIwbREpU7EMb 
• Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/id1740828813 
• Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/fa60b654-1955-4055-93df-fdd40c2a5c8f/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change 
• iHeart Radio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-shift-thrive-ceo-insights-166792501 
• Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/shift-and-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/PC:1001086797  

This show is sponsored by Magnetude Consulting, bringing you the thinking-Power of a Growth Consultancy and the Getting-It-Done Power of a full-service B2B Marketing Agency. 

Learn more at: https://www.magnetudeconsulting.com 

Go-to-market is no longer a function, a plan, or a quarterly initiative; it’s a living, evolving operating system. In this episode of Shift & Thrive, Natalie sits down with Sangram Vajre, one of the most influential voices in modern B2B go-to-market strategy, to unpack what GTM really means in today’s market and why CEOs must take ownership of it. Drawing from his experience as a co-founder of Terminus and former CMO of Pardot, Sangram challenges conventional thinking around growth, alignment, and execution. Together, Natalie and Sangram explore why misalignment at the executive level derails even the strongest marketing and sales efforts, how clarity and trust drive better decisions, and why companies must stop treating GTM as a project and start treating it as a transformation.

Takeaways:

• Go-to-market is a transformational process, not a one-time strategy or off-site exercise. Every decision a company makes either strengthens or weakens its GTM motion.
• The CEO must own go-to-market. When GTM is delegated to marketing or sales alone, organizations lose alignment, clarity, and long-term momentum.
• Not all pipeline is created equal. Focusing on the wrong ICP can create short-term wins while undermining long-term growth and retention.
• High-performing executive teams prioritize clarity, alignment, and trust over tactics, tools, and trends.
• AI and automation won’t fix a broken strategy. Without clear direction, technology only accelerates confusion.
• The future of GTM is shifting from software-first to outcomes-first, with services and systems wrapping around technology to deliver real value.

Links:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sangramvajre/ 
• Website: https://gtmpartners.com/ 
• GTM Monday: https://gtmonday.substack.com/ 

Ways to Tune In:

• Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2D1YbT2QhKxIwbREpU7EMb 
• Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/id1740828813 
• Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/fa60b654-1955-4055-93df-fdd40c2a5c8f/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change 
• iHeart Radio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-shift-thrive-ceo-insights-166792501 
• Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/shift-and-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/PC:1001086797  

This show is sponsored by Magnetude Consulting, bringing you the thinking-Power of a Growth Consultancy and the Getting-It-Done Power of a full-service B2B Marketing Agency. 

Learn more at: https://www.magnetudeconsulting.com 

Are you leading your business like a hero or an architect? We’re re-airing this powerful conversation between Natalie Nathanson and Bill Flynn, a seasoned growth advisor and business strategist with over 30 years of experience leading startups, driving company turnarounds, and coaching executives. Bill shares timeless lessons on what it really takes to lead through complexity, empower teams, and create sustainable growth in an unpredictable world. His insights are just as relevant today as when this episode first aired, offering a masterclass in modern leadership and resilience.

Takeaways:

• Empower your team to solve problems. True leadership isn’t about fixing everything yourself; it’s about creating systems, accountability, and clarity so your team can thrive independently.
• Adopt the architect mindset. Move from being the “hero” who saves the day to the architect who builds environments where innovation and ownership naturally emerge.
• Understand why customers buy. Avoid go-to-market pitfalls by deeply researching customer motivations and applying frameworks like “Jobs to be Done” instead of guessing.
• Lead with adaptability in a complex world. Today’s “BANI” environment demands resilience, building diverse teams, promoting open dialogue, and being ready to pivot as conditions evolve.
• Focus on team balance, not personal perfection. You don’t have to be great at everything. Identify your strengths and surround yourself with people who complement them.
• Have the courage to let go. Sustainable growth happens when leaders step back, empower others, and focus on strategy and vision rather than daily firefighting.

Links:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/billflynnpublic/ 
• Website: https://catalystgrowthadvisors.com/ 

Ways to Tune In:

• Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2D1YbT2QhKxIwbREpU7EMb 
• Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/id1740828813 
• Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/fa60b654-1955-4055-93df-fdd40c2a5c8f/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change 
• iHeart Radio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-shift-thrive-ceo-insights-166792501 
• Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/shift-and-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/PC:1001086797  

This show is sponsored by Magnetude Consulting, bringing you the thinking-Power of a Growth Consultancy and the Getting-It-Done Power of a full-service B2B Marketing Agency. 

Learn more at: https://www.magnetudeconsulting.com 

In this special solo episode of Shift & Thrive, Natalie steps back from the usual interview format to reflect on the year, what it taught leaders, what themes surfaced repeatedly, and what’s ahead. The episode invites listeners to slow down during the holiday season and consider the lessons they want to carry forward into the new year.

A Look Back: Lessons That Shaped This Year

• Openness is the starting point for transformation. Leaders and teams grow when they stay open to new ideas, new paths, and new challenges, even before the answers are clear.
• Curiosity is a powerful leadership skill. Whether it involved listening to dissenting voices or asking bolder questions, curiosity proved to be a consistent catalyst for stronger strategies and more connected teams.
• Real change requires patience and adaptability. Even when leaders know exactly where they want to go, guiding a team through change rarely moves as quickly or cleanly as planned. 

Links:

• Natalie’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natalienathanson/ 
• Website: https://www.magnetudeconsulting.com/insights/podcast/ 

Ways to Tune In:

• Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2D1YbT2QhKxIwbREpU7EMb 
• Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/id1740828813 
• Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/fa60b654-1955-4055-93df-fdd40c2a5c8f/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change 
• iHeart Radio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-shift-thrive-ceo-insights-166792501 
• Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/shift-and-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/PC:1001086797  

This show is sponsored by Magnetude Consulting, bringing you the thinking-Power of a Growth Consultancy and the Getting-It-Done Power of a full-service B2B Marketing Agency. 

Learn more at: https://www.magnetudeconsulting.com 

What does real growth look like when leaders reinvent themselves, rebuild systems, and rediscover purpose? This special Shift & Thrive compilation brings together unforgettable stories and lessons from some of the year’s most thoughtful leaders. Listen to our guests share insights about transforming AI’s evolution into human-like teammates and the profound clarity that comes from surviving a life-threatening disaster. Across technology, mindset, communication, and personal resilience, each guest offers a different lens on what it means to lead with intention. These stories remind us that progress isn’t just about scaling companies or refining strategy; it’s about identity, patience, preparation, and meaningful service.

Takeaways:

• Design for human experience, not just efficiency. As AI becomes more agentic, users need support in shifting from command-based tools to true collaboration with technology.
• Presence is a leadership skill. Balancing ambition with mindfulness prevents burnout and allows leaders to show up more effectively for their teams and families. A grounded leader makes better long-term decisions.
• Habits and endurance fuel sustainable growth. Whether training for triathlons or scaling a business, progress comes from consistent behaviors and the willingness to push through discomfort. 
• Identity drives behavior change. Seeing yourself differently, as a CEO, an athlete, or a healthier person, creates the conditions for new choices. When identity shifts, habits follow naturally.
• Strong systems prevent overwhelm. Like sports teams that rehearse repeatedly, businesses need documentation, practice, and structure so challenges stay manageable.
• Purpose elevates leadership. When leaders orient their work toward service rather than self-preservation, they build deeper meaning and stronger impact. 

Links:

• Matt Darrow, CEO & Co-Founder at Vivun 
  • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewdarrow/ 
  • Full Episode: https://youtu.be/vcjoj95EriI 
• Pete Martin, Co-Founder & CEO at Realm.Security
  • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pete-martin-b2199334/ 
  • Full Episode: https://youtu.be/8RaHrjlEadg 
• Nathan Whittacre, Founder and CEO at Stimulus Technologies
  • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanwhittacre/ 
  • Full Episode: https://youtu.be/1d22cHtNRGo 
• Rich Walker, CEO at Quik!
  • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/quikformsceo/ 
  • Full Episode: https://youtu.be/0w8p9nTWrAk 
• AJ Meyer, CEO at Pickle Robot Company
  • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-meyer-2457594/ 
  • Full Episode: https://youtu.be/P6KBLGOUJmQ 
• Pete Jones, CEO & Founder at Grypp Corp 
  • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pete-jones-gryppcorp/ 
  • Full Episode: https://youtu.be/cRFUVVTazKE 
• John Graham, Executive Director at The Giraffe Heroes Project 
  • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnagraham1/ 
  • Full Episode: https://youtu.be/1iTda8jrlwA 
• Bill Flynn, CEO/Chief Catalyst at Catalyst Growth Advisors
  • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/billflynnpublic/   
  • Full Episode: https://youtu.be/Stfvg2-d5HU  

Ways to Tune In:

• Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2D1YbT2QhKxIwbREpU7EMb 
• Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/id1740828813 
• Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/fa60b654-1955-4055-93df-fdd40c2a5c8f/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change 
• iHeart Radio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-shift-thrive-ceo-insights-166792501 
• Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/shift-and-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/PC:1001086797  
• YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClf9QxGUxZw_Sv8_4bZP34Q 

This show is sponsored by Magnetude Consulting, bringing you the thinking-Power of a Growth Consultancy and the Getting-It-Done Power of a full-service B2B Marketing Agency. 

Learn more at: https://www.magnetudeconsulting.com 

What happens when leaders discover that most barriers to transformation come from within their own systems rather than the people inside them? In this episode of Shift & Thrive, Natalie sits down with transformation strategist Marcia Daszko, whose work with CEOs, boards, and executive teams has shaped transformations across industries from Fortune 50 corporations to school districts and private companies on the brink of collapse. Marcia shares why meaningful transformation always begins with personal change, why leaders must embrace curiosity and courage, and why systems, not individuals, determine performance. She explains how clarity of aim creates alignment and why most companies sabotage themselves by clinging to old management habits. Together, Natalie and Marcia explore the stamina required to lead through uncertainty, the impact of fear on productivity, and the risks of layering new technologies like AI on top of broken processes

Takeaways:

• Curiosity is the entry point to transformation. Leaders must develop a habit of questioning their assumptions, challenging long-held beliefs, and examining the practices they’ve accepted as normal. 
• Courage determines whether learning turns into action. The leaders who succeed push through discomfort, confront outdated systems, and take ownership of the conditions they’ve created, even when it means letting go of familiar habits.
• Systems drive results, not individual effort. When performance stalls, most leaders look to accountability or evaluation tactics. Marcia urges the opposite: redesign the system.
• Fear quietly erodes productivity and profits. Naming and removing those fears builds trust, unlocks creativity, and helps people contribute without self-protection getting in the way.
• Flow is the north star of transformation. When barriers, waste, complexity, and unnecessary practices are removed, work, communication, and innovation move more naturally. Transformation becomes less about force and more about enabling conditions.
• AI is not a shortcut; it’s an amplifier. Leaders who apply AI to broken systems risk multiplying waste. 

Links:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marciadaszko/ 
• Email: [email protected]
• Phone Number: 408-398-7220 
• Website: https://mdaszko.com 
• Pivot, Disrupt, and Transform Book: https://a.co/d/gjnqCwF 

Ways to Tune In:

• Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2D1YbT2QhKxIwbREpU7EMb 
• Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/id1740828813 
• Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/fa60b654-1955-4055-93df-fdd40c2a5c8f/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change 
• iHeart Radio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-shift-thrive-ceo-insights-166792501 
• Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/shift-and-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/PC:1001086797  

This show is sponsored by Magnetude Consulting, bringing you the thinking-Power of a Growth Consultancy and the Getting-It-Done Power of a full-service B2B Marketing Agency. 

Learn more at: https://www.magnetudeconsulting.com 

Why do some leaders thrive in ambiguity, and how can you build that same capability across your organization? In this episode, Natalie sits down with Elizabeth Harz, CEO of Veriato, to explore what it really takes to lead through continuous transformation. Elizabeth’s career has spanned enterprise technology, digital media, gaming, edtech, and now insider-risk management and behavioral intelligence. Throughout each chapter, she’s built a repeatable yet flexible approach to change, grounded in curiosity, structured communication, and deep respect for leadership as a discipline. Together, Natalie and Elizabeth unpack the realities of guiding organizations through fast-moving environments, especially in a world where change no longer has a clear endpoint. They also discuss Veriato’s evolution, the shifting landscape of security, and the growing need for proactive, behavior-driven insight inside modern companies.

Takeaways:

• Treat leadership as a discipline, not an instinct. Elizabeth emphasizes that strong leadership requires intentional skill-building, just like product development or finance.
• Normalize change and get comfortable with ambiguity. The real work is creating clarity of vision, psychological safety, and an honest acknowledgment that some team members will opt in at different speeds.
•  Use your network as a strategic asset. Elizabeth highlights the value of both formal and informal networks for navigating complex decisions. When challenges arise, trusted peers can accelerate clarity.
• Involve the organization early and often. Listening tours surfaced the insights, skepticism, and creativity needed to shape the path ahead.
• Create early wins to build belief. Skeptics often become the strongest champions once they see progress. 

Links:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eharz/ 
• Website: https://veriato.com/ 

Ways to Tune In:

• Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2D1YbT2QhKxIwbREpU7EMb 
• Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/id1740828813 
• Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/fa60b654-1955-4055-93df-fdd40c2a5c8f/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change 
• iHeart Radio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-shift-thrive-ceo-insights-166792501 
• Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/shift-and-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/PC:1001086797  

This show is sponsored by Magnetude Consulting, bringing you the thinking-Power of a Growth Consultancy and the Getting-It-Done Power of a full-service B2B Marketing Agency. 

Learn more at: https://www.magnetudeconsulting.com 

What does it really take to build and evolve a go-to-market engine that drives sustainable growth in today’s environment? This week, we’re re-airing one of our most popular conversations from the Shift & Thrive Go-To-Market Miniseries: a deep dive with Scott Brown, Partner and Head of Platform & Go-To-Market at Cervin Ventures. It’s packed with practical insights for leaders rethinking how their teams generate and retain revenue in a changing market.

Takeaways:

• Use data to challenge assumptions. Inbound signals often reveal overlooked opportunities; the right metrics can prove where to shift focus and resources.
• Test, learn, then commit. Approach go-to-market changes with a hypothesis mindset. Controlled experiments reduce risk and build confidence in new strategies.
• Align your teams early. Sales, marketing, and customer success should share language, systems, and goals to drive retention and expansion, not just acquisition.
• Balance human and AI strengths. AI can amplify strategy, but only when teams have the right foundations and oversight to guide automation effectively.
• Keep the human in the loop. AI tools are powerful accelerators, but without human judgment and oversight, they can magnify errors or inefficiencies.
• Lay strong operational foundations. Even the most advanced tools can’t fix a flawed setup. Double-check your systems before scaling.
• Invest in customer success before it’s a problem. Retention planning should be part of your first go-to-market blueprint, not a late-stage fix.

Links:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rsbrown7/ 
• Website: https://www.cervinventures.com 
• Email: [email protected] 

Ways to Tune In:

• Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2D1YbT2QhKxIwbREpU7EMb 
• Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/id1740828813 
• Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/fa60b654-1955-4055-93df-fdd40c2a5c8f/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change 
• iHeart Radio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-shift-thrive-ceo-insights-166792501 
• Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/shift-and-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/PC:1001086797  

This show is sponsored by Magnetude Consulting, bringing you the thinking-Power of a Growth Consultancy and the Getting-It-Done Power of a full-service B2B Marketing Agency. 

Learn more at: https://www.magnetudeconsulting.com 

What does it take to balance innovation with reality when AI moves faster than your market? In this episode of Shift & Thrive, Natalie Nathanson sits down with Yossi Carmon, CEO of Accelario, to unpack what it really means to lead through transformation in the age of AI. Drawing on his early startup lessons and his experience leading tech companies, Yossi explores how founders and CEOs can stay rooted in customer needs while effectively harnessing cutting-edge technology. He also shares how authenticity is redefining go-to-market strategies and reflects on the personal side of leadership.

Takeaways:

• Don’t fall in love with your technology. Yossi reminds leaders that ideas only matter when they deliver real value. Falling for the tech instead of the problem leads to missed opportunities.
• Let technology be part of the journey, not the destination. Founders who treat AI as a partner rather than a replacement for judgment will build stronger, more relevant products.
• Listen before you build. Asking customers what they truly need may reveal that only a fraction of your original idea is necessary to succeed.
• Stay on your toes. The business landscape, especially with AI, is shifting daily. Leaders must constantly reassess strategy, pricing, and messaging to stay relevant.
• Lead with clarity and heart. Yossi’s approach to leadership emphasizes honesty, fast decision-making, and transparency as keys to building trust and culture.
• Be authentic in your marketing. With AI flooding channels with content, customers crave human connection and genuine experiences more than ever.
• Know when to step aside, or level up. Strong founders bring in people who are smarter than they are in key areas. Growth requires courage and humility.

Quote of the Show:

• “Your startup cannot be just about your technology. It has to be about searching for and understanding the true value for your customer. Otherwise, you end up building something that’s irrelevant for customers.”

Links:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yossicarmon/ 
• Website: https://accelario.com/ 
• Email: [email protected] 

Ways to Tune In:

• Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2D1YbT2QhKxIwbREpU7EMb 
• Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/id1740828813 
• Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/fa60b654-1955-4055-93df-fdd40c2a5c8f/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change 
• iHeart Radio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-shift-thrive-ceo-insights-166792501 
• Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/shift-and-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/PC:1001086797  

This show is sponsored by Magnetude Consulting, bringing you the thinking-Power of a Growth Consultancy and the Getting-It-Done Power of a full-service B2B Marketing Agency. 

Learn more at: https://www.magnetudeconsulting.com