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Meryl Streep is the new voice of Aslan, and Christians have plenty of opinions about it. Esau, Malcolm, and Producer Mike talk about the outrage over Greta Gerwig's Narnia casting choice and what it reveals about the things Christians choose to treat as sacred. They also discuss Nicole Hannah-Jones's reflections on sending her daughter to public school and the difficult question of whether our children should have to bear the cost of our convictions. Plus, Esau breaks down Pete Hegseth's use of Isaiah 6 on his "Send Me" military tour and why turning a prophetic calling into a recruiting message badly distorts the text.
0:00 - Theme Song
0:32 - Malcolm Foley
5:34 - Pete Hegseth and Isaiah 6
17:44 - Sending Kids to Private or Public School?
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35:00 - Parental Failure
37:34 - Meryl Streep as Aslan
51:23 - End Credits
Pete Hegseth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0VynQFRJRs
Can I Kick My Dog out of Bed?
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/22/well/get-pet-out-of-bed.html
Greta Gerwig's Narnia Casting Choice:
https://deadline.com/2026/09/greta-gerwig-chose-meryl-streep-voice-aslan-narnia-1237107096/
Public Schools
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/20/magazine/ny-public-schools-black-students-segregation.html
Annie F. Downs joins the show to talk about why every leader needs a personal board of directors and who actually belongs there.
Carey and Annie discuss why AI friendship can never replace the real thing and why Christians need to stay in the secular world instead of retreating from it.
Plus, we get a massive update on her recent marriage and what that does to her singles ministry.
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Annie F. Downs joins the show to talk about why every leader needs a personal board of directors and who actually belongs there.
Carey and Annie discuss why AI friendship can never replace the real...
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