Jeff Perla (@thetravelinbum) Is joined by 2 guests, Casey & James who are fathers VIA adoption & surrogacy. What's easier adoption or surrogacy? Is it possible to jerk off into a cup and get a female pregnant turkey baster style? Listen as we hear how these men did it. Grab a glass of wine and keep up with us on this episode of Behind the Bum!

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