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Learn the ins and outs of the NFT selling platform, Rarible NFTS! With Chris, Maz, and Rarible Co-Founder & Head of Product - Alexander Salnikov!!

PLUS NFT news, upcoming drops, Roadmaps, and talking about the hottest projects - Art blocks, Cool Cats, Bored Ape Yacht Club, Lazy Lions, Dizzy Dragons, Galactic Apes, and more!

Guests:

Alexander Salnikov Co-founder of Rarible.com

Hosts:

Chris Katje

Maz

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Hey everyone. Welcome to the roadmap. Benzingers new NFT show. The last few episodes we've had some great interviews. We've had the teams behind the Vogue collective robots dose, the dose pound only forest crypto. And the blue team, we've also done some NFTE giveaways and plan on doing those in the future.

So stay tuned for more great giveaways. We've got a great show today. Joining us. We'll have the co-founder of referable, and we'll also dive into the news and some current and upcoming drops and events to talk about, but without further ado, everyone, this is the.

All right. What's up everyone? Yeah. Welcome to the roadmap. Benzing us new NFT show. We currently air Tuesdays and Thursdays at 2:00 PM. Eastern time. We're working on getting more showtimes cause I know everyone on. Wants more NFT coverage. So if you guys would like fencing to add more NFT shows, go ahead and hit one in the chat and go ahead and smash that like as well.

So we can get started up. Let me go ahead and bring on my cohost mass mass. What's going on with. Yo what's going on, Chris? How you doing today, man? Doing great. I mean another exciting week, right? There's so much always going on in NFT lay on there's mints every day there's events, every day. There's, you know, uh, new NFT drops for existing products.

There's new roadmaps put out. There's just so much going on out there. Absolutely. Well, first of all, the shout out to the chat, I'm looking at it right now. It looks like we have some. Does he dragon, uh, owners in there. So shout out, you know, thumbs up really quick. Let's get the show going. Uh, so shout out to them.

We have some amazing headlines to get to today and yeah. Yeah. We're going to have to dive into dragons in a minute. Uh, it looks like that community is showing up in full force today, uh, mass it's Tuesday. So one of the first things we like to do is talk about the last week, right? So I want to talk about last week's top 10 in sales volume real quick.

No surprise Axion infinity and leading the way again for the third straight week sales of 109.0 million. Then we had crypto punks. Number two, art blocks. Number three, again, no big surprises. The big surprise was cup cats, right up cats coming in fourth place, 16.9 mil. Sales volume of 3300%. Um, that was the big gainer and then cool cats at five board apes at six mute Napes at seven and then the other big gainer, lazy lions that eighth lazy lions up 36%.

They did have a NFT drop that we'll talk about in a minute. So they did see some heavy volume from that. And then mass, I went and I looked past the top 10 and the other big surprise. Was NBA top shot. They had sales value of 6.8 million last week up 91.8%. Um, I think they were 14th place. So again, not in the top 10, but a nice increase.

That was a project we highlighted last week that it was gaining some more, uh, you know, steam getting back up and running. NBA, top shots forth all time with sales volume of 720 million. So nothing to sneeze at here. That's our top 10, uh, mass let's get into some, uh, recent mints and events. Uh, tell me about these galactic apes.

Yeah, so we had a stealth drop this weekend, galactic apes. They dropped no marketing. They shut down their discord. They didn't post anything on Twitter. Uh, they have a Genesis drop, which is around a hundred pieces. They launched before board apes. And I think the floor for those was around 15. I think it's definitely much higher now.

So there was some sort of substance there, but they dropped 10,000 pieces. I think it was it. What? Saturday night they sold. Yeah. Sold out in five minutes and then just the hype after that has been absolutely insane. I'm a big fan of the art. If you look at them, they're pretty cool. Um, yeah, so the floor is around one eighth right now.

And you know, there's some sort of gamification they're doing where you have to collect, you know, the apes, they have three different types of IOPS. They have gorillas, orangutans, and chimpanzees. You got to collect all three to play the game. Which we're going to see soon what they mean by that. But a lot of hype here.

Were you able to meet Chris or have you followed up with them? I followed this project. I wasn't able to mint. Um, the timing just didn't work out with that contract, but I mean that this artwork looks great. And I like the fact that there is three different classes, you know? Having that gamification, you know, wanting people to collect all three or have more than one ape, I think could provide, you know, some additional value.

Um, this is a project where, you know, it's one east now and I think the, the flipping's done. And I think this one could have, you know, some long-term lasting value. So I'm definitely looking at it, you know, as more of a long-term play here. Uh, I think the value is going to increase. Absolutely. Yeah. And then I know something big happened yesterday.

Do you want to tell us what that was? As far as we had a big slab? Ah, changes. Yeah. I mean, we always talk about celebrities on the show. Again, celebrities don't make or break a project, but when you get a big name to attach themselves to your project, especially if it's as well known as Shaquille O'Neal Shaq himself.

15.5 million followers on Twitter and he changed his profile picture to a creature creature world, a well-known, uh, NFT project and mass, no surprise here in the last 24 hours, creature sales $6.2 million. Number four in sales value on cryptos Liam and sales value of 1000. 144%. That is the shack of fact.

And this one's got some other big names in that too. I think Gary V owned some, um, you know, and some other big celebrities. So this isn't a first one. The floor price is 2.35. Now on these, um, I think it was a well under two before, more like closer to one. Um, I mean, and these sales just took off yesterday.

I mean, this is kind of a different one, right? We, we haven't seen as much artwork like this, so I, I like it. And Shaq didn't really make an announcement. Right. He just changed his profile picture so that there's a chance he could put out a tweet or say something about creature and that could, uh, bring even more value.

What do you think? Yeah, that's the crazy part, right? He didn't make an announcement. He didn't say anything. He just changed his profile. And that's it. And you know, and that's so crazy that that created this wave of FOMO, you know, big whales started buying after that and the price shot up. I forget what it was at before, but it's kind of substantially.

Um, so yeah, if he does shout out, we don't know if there's a collaboration. We don't know anything. We don't know if he's just a fan. If it was paid, we don't know anything at all. So it's going to be interesting to watch for the next couple of days. I liked the art, uh, creatures, you know, th I think it's different.

I think it's definitely blue chip material. So we'll see where that. Um, another big mint that happened yesterday. So it seems like we're in the cycle of cute profile pictures now. Right? So a lot of these cute profile picture NFTs. Going through the moon here. And we had a big one yesterday, winter bears.

Uh, were you able to meet those Chris? You know, I wasn't, I'm sad to say that I was actually on a call with a team member here at Benzinga. I saw the activity picking up and by the time I got off the phone, these things had already sold out gas was running crazy, but I mean, it shouldn't come as that big of a surprise, right.

Once people saw this, this cute profile that is, you know, the, the hot play right. And look at that. I mean, a 0.2 floor, I think it hit almost 0.3 yesterday. Um, you know, and these were cheap to mint, right? So this was a, a nice project for anyone who was able to, uh, to catch that move there. Exactly. And it seems like, you know what it is, it's a FOMO from cool cats, you know, these all kind of resemble or seem inspired by cool cats.

Cool cats at ten eight floor this weekend, there was a big celebration. It was trending on Twitter. So it's no surprise that people are priced out of that. They're trying to find, you know, projects that are cute, like this, and you know, can build community. So community is a big part. Plus the cute profile picture.

Definitely. So then the next project I'm scared to talk about. Cause the chat might start going crazy, but we have, we have dizzy dragons. So dizzy dragons, they announced an update to their roadmap. Right? We are the roadmap after all. That's one of the things we still look at, you know, on these projects. So I remember watching this project when it was like 0.0 3.04.

They did a fusion where you could merge together to have your dragons sweats, a deflationary project. Right? So there's 6,000 of them right now. The floor is 0.19, and they're actually still fusing through, uh, Thursday the 30th. So that's going to be the last day that you can fuse under the current road.

And then they announced that they're expanding that busy universe and lower with a new collection. So if you own a fuse dragon, you will get a free claim to the new collection. So right now, if you were to buy two dresses, Fuse them together. You're going to get a free mint on that next project, a mass, you know how much I like, you know, the, the roadmaps and I like buying into these projects where you get a new NFT out of owning.

I'm a big fan of that reward system. I think it provides good value. So here you have two things, right? You have deflationary, there's going to be less dragons out. To getting a new claim to me, that's a win-win. So, uh, I I've been looking at these dragons, hopefully I'm not driving the price up too much right now talking about them.

Cause, uh, this is what I, my watch list. What do you think mass? Yeah, so I'm a big fan of deflationary, uh, you know, roadmaps. I like to see less supply or just, you know, ways to reward early community members. And you know, we're still so early in that of T world that doing this, you know, as the projects take on, you know, as more people join.

There's less supply, more demand your award people, that huddles. So I love it. And I liked the art. It's pretty cool. Yeah. I'd love the art and it sounds like maybe we need to have the, the dizzy dragons team come on a future show and tell us more about the roadmap in this artwork. So if you're out there, hit us up on Twitter, let us know, and we, we can get Drizzy, uh, you know, with everyone on this.

Let's do it. Um, so speaking of, you know, drops, we have not, uh, not fungible bones. You've seen those Chris. I have, they were kind of cool look and right. Cause they were kind of unique. Um, you know, something I hadn't seen yet, um, you know, the skeleton. So we also have a bit of a Halloween theme and mass, these things got hot in a hurry.

This is a 10,000 NFT project. The floor is point to, um, you know, this was a cheaper project to begin with that people just said, no, I, I, this one might've been free. This one just shot up in a hurry. And it got a ton of attention. Exactly. And just, yeah, like you said, Halloween's coming up. This seems like a perfect Halloween, like huddle play.

Look at that 180 7 eat. That's crazy. Yeah, we might, we might have to do a show on, uh, some Halloween NFTs cause man, I I've been lucky. I I've been thinking, Hey, what's going to be the next, uh, NFTs that everyone, you know, circles around for, for Halloween. We're already seeing some move up. Uh, but I think there's a couple more that could be going.

So, uh, stay tuned for that. A future show here. Um, maths, we've got, uh, another. You know, well-known project, lazy lion. So lazy lions, the mint price was 0.05. They sold out in less than five hours. And these things, they recently dropped a bungalows, which were free for all holders minus the cost of gas. Um, and look at that floor price, the floor price to two on these now.

I mean, and you heard me say 0.05 to mint that I've seen lots of people with this. I'll picture, which again, that's part of the, that's part of the, you know, the big, uh, you know, bull case for NFTs, right? With some of these ones that are animals. They're cute. They do well as a PFP, as you want to see a lot of people that have them as their PFP.

Yes. I've seen a lot of lions out there and I think they look cool. Right? I mean, great artwork. You've got some different, uh, traits there. I mean, the, the cigarettes, the different hair color, you got hats on some, I mean, we got the beanie hat there and then the bungalows right there. I mean, that's kind of cool.

Right? Where's your lion going to live? You get a free mint of a bungalow for your, for your lion to, uh, to live at. So a nice reward again for the. Yeah, that's a great point, you know, and I've the lays line community. I see them everywhere. You know, like you said, profile pictures. I see so many of those on Twitter, on divert.

And to me, that's a strong sign of the community. So that's really cool to see.

Awesome. Well, I, I, I know we've got one that is on referable. Let's save that one for when we get into our interview. Mazza art blocks. We talked about it last week, right? The Cromey squiggles. Did you happen to see that there was another big sale for the Cromey squiggles? Yeah, there was a big sale. I think it was me crummy squiggle 4 6, 9, 7 for 945 Eve, which is around 2.8 million.

Uh, there's been big sales in the last week or so, which is interesting. Cause you know, art blocks has, you know, there was a slight dip in the last couple of weeks. So it's interesting to see, you know, the squiggles going for these all times. I mean, those things just continue to, you know, set records and, you know, $2.8 million for a crummy squiggle that that is insane.

And art blacks continues to do more and more drops a mass. How about alpha Betty? Right. We had alpha Betty team on not too long ago. And we saw that floor price rise over the past couple of days. We did see some well-known traders and discords, you know, circle around this, but also. Alpha Betty announced a Dow, right?

So current and future owners of alpha-beta will own part of the Betty Dow where they will get 2% of secondary sales. And then that Dow also owns 132. 29 coloring books, a mutant eight yacht club, five east and another one east in other NFTs. Uh, you can see some of them in that picture there, um, mass, I'm a big fan of the Dow, uh, component too.

So what do you think of this? Uh, alpha-beta news. Yeah, we liked the Betties and shout out to the team. We had them on a couple of weeks ago, such a great team, and to see them, you know, bring the doubt to life is pretty cool. Yeah. I mean, I love the work. I think it's a great longterm play. They've been around for some time in the NFT world.

So seeing them have a nice bounce back and trending again. And then mass, have you ever heard of these, uh, the, the bras, this is on rare trouble. Um, Alyssa, if we can get that artwork up, this is an interesting one, right? So we're going to talk to Alex from repairable and I hadn't heard of this project, but I recently found it.

I like the artwork. What do you, what do you think of that matters? I mean, these are kind of cool looking. Yeah, they are, uh, the bras. Let me see, I'm looking at them now. Let's see. Yeah, they're pretty cool. Yeah. So we're going to have to do more research in that, or maybe get this team, get this team on. I mean, I haven't seen anything, you know, exactly like this, which I'm always a fan of, you know, uniqueness, something different.

And again, you can find these on referable looks like they are auctioning off right now. Um, you know, so, uh, We do have an interview to get to. So I'm super excited. Uh, we get to talk to Alex niqab, the head of product, and co-founder from rare trouble. So in the south further ado, let's bring on Alex, Alex, welcome to the roadmap.

How are you doing? I'm doing great. Thank you guys for hearing me today. I'm so excited. Yeah, we're excited to hear more about referable. Of course, referable is a well-known NFT platform. Uh, but we want to dive into, to some of the specifics, but first off, Alex, can you just tell viewers who may not be familiar with referable?

You know, what is rare ball? Variable is all about creating, selling your own NFTs. So we started two years ago as the platform where anyone could create an MTS back then that was a luxury. Uh, every platform was closed out. To pass the B VIP, uh, invite system, get yourself verified, button variable, like everyone was able.

So it's like everyone welcome NFT marketplace. And we are really into the yellow and fun and playful stuff. I guess this, this part of, of the world, uh, being, being nice design UI UX is what excites us a lot in the NFC space. Perfect. Well, uh, you know, we talk a lot about big NFT projects, um, you know, celebrities or well-known projects that launched they mint strong secondary sales.

Can you tell us about some of the most successful projects that have launched on. Yeah, uh, Justin, this weekend, we had the large drop by . Uh, you can find it in the, uh, in the top collection section, uh, and the hot collection section, uh, they met 700,000, uh, just out of the five or 600. So that basically was like 30.

Is there item in the auction? Uh, you can see them all over the world is the famous boys collection, uh, all over the Twitter. Uh, like a lot of, a lot of guys in Twitter have that on their avatar. I think STANY from RV. The protocol, the defy protocol has one on his avatar, so pretty famous one. Uh, and also the previous ones, a big one, probably.

No. He ate a person who launched the nuts 10 K, but 8,888 K and T eight collection, uh, of his devils. So he is like long time variable user. He made several consecutive drops of a hundred, 150,000 doors, uh, over and over again with love him so much. I own one. Awesome. Well, we do know that there are, you know, uh, some other NFP platforms out there.

I won't name any, but Alex, can you tell us, you know, how is referable different than some of your competitors out? Yeah. So first of all, verbal was always really appealing to the creators. So we have an extended minting functionality. You can mint NFTs with images, gifs, MP3, MP4. She cannot unlock about content.

You can, you can check the arbitrary Royal. So like 50%, 30%, the way you want build that into your item and, uh, obviously customize your profile. So it of these was like, uh, get to the leaderboard. It always was about the creator himself. Follow a lot of social aspect on the platform and you have the whole following feed where only the items from the people who follow are displayed.

So we love this, this social aspect. Love that. So I have a question for you as far as target audience and customers a little bit more into it. Um, you know, so how do you guys go about finding your ideal customer or target audience as of now considering, you know, all those other NFT platforms are popping up and you guys have been around for a while, which is great.

Yeah. We've been around for awhile. Uh, I think our best, our best strategies to be in community. Uh, we are known as community owned and community operated platform. We launched a governance token a year ago, but that's another story, but basically, uh, it's just always be on the spotlight on Twitter. We do have a BD guy, guys that are on the lookout for everyone for big drops, the French Montana team, uh, recently, uh, Sold out there.

They're physical sneakers and there are some digital left. You can check those out. Um, Um, our, our target audience is basically the more consumer-based the more mainstream audience, biggest, uh, we design variable to be simple, to be easy to use and fun. And that's why we're looking for people who just want to do something fun for their audience.

So not to be like highly transactional, um, but more like cultural spectrum. Love that. And that's a great point. You actually talked about my next question, which was the governance token. So a variable has a governance governance token called Rory. Can you tell us a little bit more about that? Yeah. So we'll launch that.

Uh, again, we, we started as the most open platform and basically that was another step in becoming even more open. So we'll launch the governance token about a year ago in July, 2020. And that was a massive success. We were amongst the first like 10 projects that launched the liquidity, uh, mining, uh, Um, but, uh, defy projects in their case, like waging mining is like I supplied capital.

Uh, whereas in the NFT project, in the marketplace, uh, liquidity is the supply and demand on the marketplace. That's why. Rewarding suppliers and demanders and the marketplace. So basically buyers and sellers, and we distribute governance rights over the platform to the buyers and sellers that how you're you basically receive a cash back on every deal that you've made it where I's like from 5% to 20% on the G on the volume now, uh, at, at, at the time we started, that was a hundred percent.

So basically everything was for. So that's the process of progressive decentralization of the variable of the variable project. You earn the ownership over that, and there is the Dow. Uh, we recently launched a product called. Uh, which is basically all the tech behind terrible that allows you to spin up your own NFC project, your own NXT experience much more faster than if you build that ground up.

And the protocol is directly governed by the Dao completely built upon this open principles. Um, open-sourced community owned, uh, while, while bearable.com is just one of the apps on top of. So there is a buyer, but ACA system. And the very token is basically the key to that. Love that. So the goal of variable is to evolve into a full-on Dow then.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Full on down. It's already there. It's not in yet in its best, uh, governance forum. So, uh, we do have, we do have a signaling era right now, which is basically like a multi-six snapshot voting, which has gas lists. And it's early. If you want to participate in the variable Dougie like Jordan, it's a really, never been a better time to do that.

Let's go love that. Shout out now. Never a better time. We are gonna make it. Uh, Alex, uh, it was announced, uh, earlier this year when rarer BL uh, raised money that there was a partnership with dapper labs, the company behind NBA top shot. Can you give us an update on the, this partnership with dapper labs and what it means for referable?

Basically, it means wearable that the flow blockchain is the next blockchain we are going to adopt, uh, the work isn't. They have a development, uh, it takes a lot of thought process to understand how do we combine two blockchains on the same path for him because they have different wallets and we need to not confuse the user with like, where, where do I go to, to get an item?

And there is this, this. Big development under undergoing these days. Uh, I cannot yet say what they were going to launch, but it's, it's, it's basically a bit the next blockchain that we're going to and did that prolapse. Uh, absolutely amazing team. They have absolutely amazing blockchain. Um, now gas prices almost it's really chip, uh, really environmentally friendly.

Well, the team behind cryptic curious, aversely knew how to build a blockchain for NFTs in June referable raised money in a new funding round. Can you tell us, do you know why the decision to, to raise money then? And what will it go towards? Yeah. So it's been a really fruitful year for variable in, in just January, 2021.

Uh, we're braced, uh, as serious. See it from, from Coinbase ventures, going fund a and one K KX, all those, uh, all those amazing funds. And later, just like five months later, we raised another 14.2 million led by when rock and coin. So, uh, they, if it's basically the. The traction of the, of the market, uh, uh, which, which resulted in, in our understanding that we need to scale the platform.

We need to scale the team. We need to, to hire a lot of, a lot of new team members and, uh, well, That always investments always go to the team members, uh, because you, you need, you need to have a lot of people to integrate new blockchains, very simply integrated credit card support. So the Moto is best. It's like, um, we're, we're going to be the best platform for mainstream.

It's really easy to use supporting environmentally friendly blockchain. I'm going, multitasking, going to L tools, supporting credit cards, simplified log-in flow, all sorts of things like that are are for this. So at the time of that funding round, I saw an article that mentioned rare bull had $150 million in sales over an 18 month period.

Is there any, a revenue or user metrics and figures that you can share with us to, to update viewers? Yeah. So the tutorial sales, the total sales, which are, uh, sit at the level of 212 million doors, uh, it's, it's a crazy number. I never, I never have thought that we will get out, uh, that crazy in just a couple of years.

Uh, and with the 30 days, uh, numbers of, of, uh, 20 and 18 million over the past two, uh, respectfully. Um, so that's, that's pretty great. Um, again, where we're doing almost a million door per day, uh, in, in, in sales, um, and, and support a lot of creative. Perfect. So Alex, you know, we are an NFT show, but of course, Benzinga right where I am employed where a stock stock market news site.

So one of the questions I have to ask, you know, is, is referable considering an IPO? Is that in the long-term plans? And maybe how close is referable to getting there? Oh, yeah. Uh, it's a really great question. Uh, we have not thought about that yet properly because obviously we have a, we have a governance token.

We are moving towards a Dao. And in the same time we have a, a front-end app, which is a private company that can go public. Um, and basically the understanding of are we going public or are we going to full downside on with all the. It's unclear yet.

Absolutely. So I wanted to talk to you a little bit more. Can you tell us a little bit more about the new project? Uh, the protocol. Yeah. Uh, I'm, I'm, I'm really glad that you asked. So this have been, uh, the result of basically our six months of work. Well, actually of all the two years of work, biggest, what we did is we've taken out the infrastructure behind.

So the smart contracts for creating items, the smart contracts for selling and buying items, the smart contracts for royalties, uh, the tool, which is like 90% of all the code, uh, of the protocol. Tracks all the provenance, like what happened with each NFT when it was born to whom it was transferred when, and for how much that was sold, what the activity is, what are my NFT is what are the NFT insights and collection are?

So this is whole like trading infrastructure. Behind variable. We, we took that and separated that into a new project, which has variable protocol. So for everyone who wants to start their own NFT project, it, it became much easier. We basically spent two years developing. Uh, our own and we know how hard that is, and that's why we, we, we made that for the community.

So it's built on this open principles, open source community govern, as I mentioned. So we provide certain guarantees to the people right now. There is no, like, there is no open source indexing tool available on the market that supports all the NFTs out. So if you're building a wallet for example, and, uh, you want to show your, your customer, uh, what are the NFTs that belong to that particular wallet?

You need an indexing tool that will tell you like, yeah, we know you, you can just go to blockchain and quieter. That information is like spread say in across the whole blockchain and the really, really thin layer. And we aggregate that and provide that to the. So for all the developers that want to build their project, it's, it's an awesome set of infrastructure.

That's awesome, man. I love that. Can you tell us a little bit more about the revamped secondary trading? Thank you. Thank you for asking that too. So, uh, obviously in, in, in spite of this, uh, uh, 10 collections, PFP projects, uh, uh, craziness, that's going on. Uh, we, we went and revamped the whole, the whole experience of trading that collections on variable.

So, uh, basically it starts, if you're a collection owner, you can go to variable, you can find that collection, you can claim ownership over that. You can set up avatar, you can set up a cover image over that. You can set up a and multiple awards. So like, let's say I want to put the 1% or community treasury.

I want to put 0.5% to offset environmental impact of my collection. So set up multiple royalties and spread out the word about this collection to be traded on variable also were released the top collection section, which is now on top of the whole website, which shows you all the leader board of the.

The coolest collections and, uh, we track data not only on variable, but on the whole blockchain there. So if a collection originated like 20 million, somewhere on other marketplaces, we, we, we put that data into the leaderboard. So you can find the. Leaderboard of collections on variable, you can click and collection.

You can trade that collection. We, the filters by trades, uh, various types of filters, price low to high. Uh, you can now like soar this and get the floor pricing. I know that sounds basic, uh, for a lot of people. Uh, this is a available ranger at some other places, but we've been always, uh, about, we've been all this marketplace about creators, and sometimes I speak to people and they, oh, I never knew that you can trade secondary and variable at all.

So I decided that they want to unpack on that you can't trade secondary and variable, and that's been an awesome experience. Love that. Yeah. So the NMT space right now, I mean, has just gone completely parabolic in the last couple months. What can variable do or what is it doing or what's going to do to, you know, kind of establish its spot.

And then if T markets, you know, moving forward, Yeah. Uh, basically we stand really highly on this decentralized approach is really important. There is not many decentralized players out there. Protocol is a big play there, uh, on the marketplace layer. Uh, we are building a tool for the generator of art projects.

Uh, so if you want to launch in new collection, uh, and you don't have a technical team that would help you to code or. Uh, you can approach variable and we might help you to launch this. Uh, so this, this is a nice addition to the team, but, uh, overall, along along the lines, we want to be open. We want to be decentralized and we want to be fine, fun and joyful in approaching the market.

Uh, obviously going multi chain with all the new blockchains that popping up is the big part of our stress. Exactly. That's actually a great question. The salon or the car donno, any implementation of that? Any time. Uh, it's actually really interesting that you named this tool. I know Solano is hugely popular these days, just because everybody tried to scale blockchains by dividing them into shards by sharding and Solana said, no, we weren't going to do.

We're going to have one just really fast and strong blockchain, uh, that, that, that played out really well for them. Uh, so Salana is, uh, in, uh, in thoughts we haven't started that, but we are really looking over this Allana and for Cardona, uh, I think it's one of the most esoteric blockchains out there. Uh, it doesn't have a lot of.

The stays, they just really sparked contracts. So we haven't even approached that. The things we're looking on is flow, uh, teases polygon, uh, in polka dot. There is Moonbeam, uh, it's an EDM compatible power chain of polka dot. Uh, we're we're looking over those, uh, those changes. Awesome. Awesome. Well, Alex, I mean some great answers there.

One of the questions we always like to ask here, you know, we, we try not to, to shell too many projects, but we have to ask people when they come on, what are some of your favorite projects that you own, or that you've kind of followed along the story? Um, in. Uh, it's a, it's a really good question. So I think I cover it.

Some of them, uh, my, my, my probably all-time favorite is kid eight, uh, projects with DeVos. Uh, I really liked the aesthetics. It's like a bold and fun, uh, and, and the little, uh, and the little, uh, I don't, I don't have a correct for it. So. Yeah, the cure is I participated in auctions couple of times and never made it, uh, just because there was always a lot of guys who wanted that, uh, and, and were willing to fight better than me.

Uh, this, this has been like absolutely amazing. I love this. So, uh, as you can see, there is not many available in the secondary sales. Everybody has got them, put them for sale like 4,000 years. Um, but you might try to get some, to get some, uh, beats. Yeah, there they are on screen. Those those look great. Uh, we've talked about kid eight before we're looking to maybe have him on the show in the future.

Love this, uh, artwork and these style projects. So Alex, a great shout out. Uh, well, this was exciting, you know, I can honestly say, you know, I didn't know a ton about rare trouble, but now I think I'm up to speed. Um, I love the Dow component. Uh, I think that could be exciting for the future. So I'll be checking out referable later today.

Um, so again, Team joining us on the show. Alex, sail, niqab, the head of product and co-founder of referable. Alex. Thanks so much for taking time out of your busy schedule and joining us on the roadmap today. Thank you, Chris. And that's been exciting to be here. Awesome. We'll see you soon. Thanks Alex. All right guys, another exclusive interview here on the roadmap.

I mean, mass that's exciting, right? To hear about referable and NFT platform. One of my favorite things was that he said that the platform was built based on what the creators. All about people who want to mint and create NFT projects, they support the artists, they support the creators. Um, and then also that talk at the end, right.

About, you know, when you asked about, you know, Solana and some of these other platforms, I like the dapper labs integration coming soon, the flow blockchain. So some exciting times ahead. What do you think. Yeah. You know, variables interesting because like you said, it's for the creator. And that's actually, how I heard about wearable first was from an artist, you know, a very low key artists, you know, semi has worked through terrible, wanted me to check it out.

Uh, so it's interesting now that NFTs have blown up, you know, gone parabolic to see, you know, these competitors and seeing what they do to differentiate, you know, Their market share in that Ft world. So arable is one of those that has been around for a while, and I'm excited to see where they go with all the Dow and the token.

Definitely. Well, it looks like the chat loved the interview as well. And again, shout out to the dizzy dragons team for joining us today. Um, I also saw a fun comment from a lion owner saying maybe they should put their lion in their Disney dragon bungalow. Um, so maybe they own both projects out there.

Guys it's time. There's that comment there from Michael, uh, guys, it's time to talk about some upcoming items, right? So let's talk about some future. Let's talk about some reveals that we're going to get. So if you have projects out there, you want us to look at, um, you know, again, we're not here to shell, this is not financial advice, but we love looking at projects we know or don't know, and also seeing some of the artwork.

So mass I bought into a project yesterday called. Bastard penguins. Right? So bastard penguins. I got some of these and they are going to reveal two night at 8:00 PM Eastern time, I believe. Uh, are you in this project and what do you think about. Yeah, I'm into these as well. Um, you know, it's cute profile picture season, so it looks like, you know, all the cute profile pictures are mooning.

So definitely I mentioned a couple of these. I will be keeping up with the reveal. I do like how they look, you know, they're, they're pretty cute. They're pretty, uh, profile pic worthy. So yes, I will be tuning them for these. What are you hoping for any traits? Any specifics there? I like that beanie hat. The Spiderman looking one and a Bart Simpson looking one that I had my eye on, but again, and then also mass.

So yeah, go ahead and answer that. And then we gotta talk about their, uh, their giveaway. So what traits are you looking for? Like the power ranger, one man, one shirt. My kids love Powerade, dude. I would love that. Yeah. Speaking to the giveaway. Yeah. Tell us a little bit, a little bit more about that. Yeah. So, I mean, we've talked about projects, right?

That do you know giveaways? We had secret society, a whales talk, right where they gave away a board. So bastard penguins will be giving away some, some money, right? Cash, money to a couple of winners. And then also a Tesla. They are giving away a Tesla to one bastard penguin owner. They took their snapshot earlier today.

I believe so mass, you have the chance to win a Tesla just for getting one of these cute penguins. So fingers crossed. But if I, if I win that Tesla, I'm going to be pretty good. Exactly. Yeah. That's interesting to see that. Um, so is it, I'm curious to see if it's per wallet or if it's per, uh, ping when that you own it's one per penguin.

One entry per penguin is what I read in the discord. So we'll, we'll see if that ends up being true. Cause that gives me a more than one. A exactly. Interesting. And then, so we have, they are unveiling tonight and then we have the bears, right? Bears minted today. What were those called? The bear season bears.

Yeah. So we had a bear market bears. That's a fun name, right. And this was kind of cool artwork. And the thing that caught my eye mass, uh, this project didn't have a ton of followers on Twitter or in the discord, but then there were some articles circulated, right? That the artists of this project actually drew a comic for the new Yorker, a well-known magazine.

And his story is that he lost his cool cat. He had it stolen. So he modeled this project after the cool cats. Right. And you mentioned that earlier on the show, right? There's a lot of projects out there. A lot of FOMO people looking for the next cool cats. Right? So this project meant to today. And it didn't have a lot of steam at first, but then it blew up in a hurry.

Right. We saw gas hit, I think almost 400 as this thing started selling out towards the end. Um, I liked the artwork. I I'm curious to see, it sounds like the reveal is going to be in 24 hours. So I do own some of these, uh, this was 0.03, five to mint, and we're at a floor of 0.06. So a decent return right now.

If you got in on this one, Um, what do you think of this one? Mass? Yeah. So again, yeah, there are definitely remind me. I can tell they're inspired by cool cats, but actually, you know, they're inspired by cool cats, but they have their own unique style to them. It's not a complete rip off, which I like. I actually liked these a lot.

I like the T the computer one looks pretty cool. The gas masks one looks cool. One that, uh, they compared to a breaking bad. It was a breaking beer. They called it with the mass. So I like that. I mean, I'm a big fan of breaking bad. I watched that whole show. So to get a bear, you know, along that lines would be kind of cool.

So I own some of these and I'm excited, uh, another, uh, you know, mint that happened today. That again, started out slow. And then it sold out in a hurry and that's why, you know, sometimes it pays to be early. Uh, you know, if you have the time to be on Twitter, be in these discords, uh, it can pay off, uh, with getting in to some of these projects.

So we also have, uh, sub docs, right. Sub docs on September 30th. So that is Thursday. This week, they are dropping king from. So you will be able to claim, um, if you are a duck holder, there's also going to be a public sale. Um, so I, I kinda like this, right? You, you own a sub doc, you're going to get a frog, uh, that picture down below.

Um, and your claimed frogs inherit, inherit your duck traits. Mass. That's a question we've asked a lot of these teams, right? When we had on, you know, doge pound when we had on crypto dash. When they normally do these new NFTs, it's a random draw. Right? You don't get any traits from your existing one. Sub ducks is going to do it the other way.

You're going to get traits based on your current holding. Uh, I'm a fan of both ways. I don't know which way I prefer you have thoughts on this math. Yeah. Um, it's interesting. I think. Helps, you know, current holders and the other strategy is to bring in new holders, right? So it seems like this strategy is rewarding.

Current holders, a little bit more, uh, you know, that bought the rare ones that have been able to, you know, build the community. It's interesting. Cause sub ducks was one of the first projects. When I first got 10 FTEs, it was sub ducks and cool cats. Those were like, you know, below one eighth floor and it's crazy to see them grow so much so quick.

So I'm a big fan of them and what they're doing so far. So I will definitely try to snipe a couple of. And then right before the show started, or actually when the show started, we did have a drop mass that I was watt. Didn't get into tropical turtles. Did you hear of that one? Cheers out of this one yet, but they had a pretty big following on social media.

So I'm curious to see, um, if this one sold out and what kind of reaction it got. Um, I don't see a tweet from them that it did sell it. Um, 0.03, five per turtle. Um, but this was a project I was watching cause mass, I mean, it's got that cute factor. Right. And we know how well that does. Um, yeah, so it looks like it did not, uh, catch on as quick as people thought.

So it looks like a still in progress. So, um, anyone out there in the chat start trapping those projects in mass. Are there any other upcoming mints or events that you're watching that we didn't get to, to. Um, you know what it's interesting now because I've realized a lot of these projects that are successful, they're stealth drops, you know, they're, they're not marketed, they're not promoted anywhere.

They just happen at a random time. So no, there's nothing specific, but I feel like the way the most successful projects right now have been stealth drops. So I will keep my eye out for those, because there's just so many projects going around. What about, yeah. Yeah. You know, that's the biggest thing is that either the stealth drops or these ones, like the bears, right.

Where maybe it was on a calendar, but it wasn't on a big calendar. It wasn't widely circulated, but then it takes, you know, some different community artwork, seeing the roadmap, seeing the cute factor, right. To really get the momentum going. Um, you know, that's how I found out about. The bears today. Um, the bastard penguins, you know, I didn't see them on a big calendar.

It was just a, you know, finding it through the community. Right. Which we're all about, uh, shout out. Ruelle in the chat room L asking about dark horizon. I do not know this one, that artwork though, in that PFS. Looks pretty cool. Uh, so Ruelle saying I love the art I saw from it. Ruelle give us a, some more info maybe while we're looking up.

I'm guessing this one has not minted yet. Do we have a date of October? Okay. Mass. What do you think of that artwork? I mean, it looks, you know, similar to some projects, but I think it's a different enough. Yeah, definitely get into Oni, a Omni more five for this one. Um, you know, they're cool. I like them. I would look more into the roadmap and seeing the community.

I liked them a lot for sure that the color pops, I think the color with these are pop a little more to me, just looking at them for. Just outside point of view really quick. What do you think of? Yeah, yeah, Andrew, I'll say in, uh, October 10th is the mint date. So we're going to have to add that to the calendar.

Um, I'd like that, you know, we've got some time to do the research and look, um, I liked that color. I feel like those colors pop, especially the ones where like the face is purple and the moon behind is purple or green and green. You know what I mean? The color on the color. I kind of like. Yeah, exactly. And I think the question is, you know, what would make a good profile picture.

Right. And then if it's, yes, then it's most likely going to do well, you know? Yeah. I mean, that's the big thing, right? Or are we back to Oni and you know, some of the big artwork projects being profile pictures, or are we full in, on the cute factor season math? Another thing we didn't talk about, and I don't know if you saw this, um, I know someone shouted it out.

Discord. I wrote an article about it. Discord changed to where, if you are a nitro member. So if you pay the monthly fee of either 4 99 or 9 99, you can now change your discord profile picture in each individual discord, the. I did see that. And I think that's really awesome because we're involved in so many communities.

And I wonder if they did that strictly because of that. I think so that was the article I wrote mass was if, if you're big and NFT is right, so discord started, you know, it was heavy in the video game community. Then it was, you know, big for stock trading communities. And now. We know all too well, right?

That it is so big for NFTs building communities. So I think this is huge, right? Because you know, if I'm in a bunch of different discords, but I own a bunch of different NFTs. How do I pick which one I display across all the discords I'm in. Also, if you're trying to be a loyal member to a distance. But they see that your profile picture is a different NFT project.

I mean, I've had that happen, right? How does that look? But you can't just make it, you know, F you, do you want to be in more than one discord, so you can't just make it one profile. So now if you pay, which, I mean, I think it's worth it, right? Because you also get server boosts, you get unlimited discords. I mean, I know I've hit that right.

Where you hit a hundred discords and you can't add anymore, but to be able to change your profile picture, right. Why not show off the NFTs you bought. I mean, isn't that part of, you know, having that, that wallet with all these different MFTs is the value, the rise in growth and also the, the show off factor.

Exactly. No, that's awesome. Actually, one other thing I want to talk about, we didn't talk about, did you see Joe Rogan who was talking about apes in his last episode yesterday, he pulled up a picture of an ape and started talking. I didn't which, which eight he was talking about how board apps. Yeah. Yeah.

He was just kind of going to over the price and, you know, he was, he, uh, caught, you know, just screenshot at it type of thing. He wasn't really a big believer, which just shows us how early we are. You know, I still think public perception of NFTs are, you can just screenshot this or just, you know, a left click, right.

Click save. Uh, so it was interesting to see. Yeah. Uh, I'm seeing a comment here from Omar in the chat thoughts on hall of fame, goats, mass. I remember when these came out. Um, I don't know if you know these, but it is one of the artists behind board apes. Right. And he also recently launched the vampires. So well-known artists in the NFT community.

Um, I was surprised that these didn't really take off when they were launched. We have a floor right now. Point. Oh five. What do you, what do you think a goats? I think I also saw recently that they were working on an updated, a roadmap or maybe a fusion or a new something. I'm going to have to look at this, but what do you think of hall of fame?

Goats, funny story. Sorry, this was actually one of my first like couple of live, live mints. You know, this is one of my first live mints that I did when they launched back in July. Um, you know, the original roadmap was, I think they were going to do a festival or something like that. And I just think it got, they got lost with all the new hype coming on.

They kind of got slept on, but, you know, I liked the art, you know, I, I w I'm curious to see what the roadmap is. And the thing about these NFTs is we go through cycles, right? So these goats may end up pumping a week or a month or a year from now, who knows, considering the fact that board Dave's has become successful and they have ties to the artists.

That's. Yeah. I mean, definitely helps to have, you know, the artist of one of the biggest projects out there. Um, you know, the vampire one had a huge discord, a huge demand, right. Based on him being in the project. Uh, yeah, we're going to have to check out the roadmap of hall of fame, goat lodge. Um, cause there could be something there.

Um, well that is just going to about do it for our show today. Coming up after the roadmap Benzinga is premiering an education video on short selling. I know that's that evil phrase right in the stock market, short selling, but we're going to give you some education on short selling and why investors should maybe look at that new avenue mass.

We do not have a show on Thursday at 2:00 PM Eastern time because Benzinga is hosting a healthcare conference covering health care. But I'm thinking maybe when that health care conference and should we whip up at a live episode of the roadmap at like 5:00 PM Eastern time? What do you think? You think the community out there wants that?

Should we ask for some votes? Yeah, I'm curious to hear some votes. We'll ask community. Definitely. You're watching. And you want us to do a show later in the day on Thursday, thumbs up, leave us a comments. Um, you know, there's just so much going on in that empty world, Chris, that when you miss a day, it feels like you're missing so much content to talk about.

So yeah, I think the community will be down for it. Yeah. So guys smash the like and press one in the. Uh, see us Thursday at 5:00 PM. Eastern time. When the healthcare conference ends, you heard mass and I talk and headlines and some of these upcoming mints, right? I said Thursday, September 30th, a couple of times.

That's Thursday. If we don't do a show Thursday, you won't hear from us again until next week. So we're going to miss out on some stuff while it looks like there's a lion out there that wants to see us Thursday. So let us know, leave comments in the video. Um, after this airs as well and hit mass and I up on Twitter handles are there on the screen.

Also want to bring up our roadmap. Uh, Twitter, if I can find it here as well. Um, but, uh, another great show, right? Exciting times for NFTs. There it is at the roadmap BZ our, our Twitter account, and then also follow Mazza. And I, and let us know if you want to hear more from us on Thursday. Mass happy trading out there.

I know we'll be talking over the next couple of days and hopefully we will see the community on Thursday at 5:00 PM Eastern time. Absolutely. Yeah. We're always looking for new projects. I mean, me and Chris constantly talk every single day about new projects coming up. So if you know any, let us know on Twitter, uh, we're always on the search, so I'm excited and we will see you on Thursday.

Awesome. Bye everyone. Take care.

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