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On this episode I talk with Showtime who is an F-35 pilot currently at the Gordian Knot center at Stanford. We also talk with Michael "B" Hamilton who is a munitions officer and currently at Rand for IDE.

We talk about ACE and how their different backgrounds help them come up with solutions.

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