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Siblings in Zion episodes
- The Good Sister
For the first time, Dan & Lisa are joined by the other sibling of the family - Lacey!
Lacey is still an active, believing member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, while Dan & Lisa are very much Ex-Mormons.
They discuss their experiences growing up in the faith, how their relationships have changed and improved as they have evolved and become more honest with each other, how Lacey has felt about her siblings leaving the religion, and why she chooses to stay.
They also discuss various topics of interest and controversy regarding the church - tithing, testimonies, temple work, death, the afterlife, Utah culture, sexual and religious taboos, church finances, family dynamics, being a single adult in a family oriented social structure, and more!
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'We expect to see the day when we will not have to ask you for one dollar of donation for any purpose, except that which you volunteer to give of your own accord' - Joseph F. Smith - General Conference, April 1907 : https://bit.ly/3if9RSq
Website: siblingsinzion.com
Instagram: instagram.com/siblingsinzion
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@siblingsinzion
Theme Music: 'The Falls' by Umbrellaman - http://umbrellamanband.com
1 hr 30 min - Crossfire! Q & A (Get to Know Us)
In this special episode, the siblings ask each other a series of questions about their lives, their Mormon upbringing, and their self-reflection that they don't already know the answers to.
From 'Who is your favorite comedian' to 'Have you ever contemplated suicide?' - there's introspection, revelation, and laughs!
A video version with a slightly different selection of questions along with visual aids is available on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzBD7mYDboM
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Website: siblingsinzion.com
Instagram: instagram.com/siblingsinzion
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@siblingsinzion
Theme Music: 'The Falls' by Umbrellaman - http://umbrellamanband.com
56 min - It Is What It Is ...
In this bonus episode - after the discussion of 'A New Earth' and its concepts Lisa has some questions about attention, perception, emotional responses, acceptance, and making 'right' choices.
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Website: siblingsinzion.com
Instagram: instagram.com/siblingsinzion
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@siblingsinzion
Theme Music: 'The Falls' by Umbrellaman - http://umbrellamanband.com
20 min - A New Earth ? | Spirituality for Sale
The siblings discuss their reading of 'A New Earth' by Eckhart Tolle - author of 'The Power of Now', spiritual 'teacher', proponent of mindfulness, and friend of Oprah ...
They share the passages and ideas that made them say 'Hmm!' as well as those that made them say 'Hmmm ...'
They also talk about the industry of spirituality and self-help, and navigating this sort of literature with healthy skepticism.
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Website: siblingsinzion.com
Instagram: instagram.com/siblingsinzion
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@siblingsinzion
Theme Music: 'The Falls' by Umbrellaman - http://umbrellamanband.com
1 hr 7 min - Are Atheists Evil?
The siblings discuss common misconceptions and misattributions of atheism, especially from theists. Primarily they discuss the exemplary debate between renowned atheist Christopher Hitchens and christian apologist William Lane Craig, as well as the chapter entitled 'Are Atheists Evil?' in the short book 'Letter to a Christian Nation' by Sam Harris. They also present their own positions toward atheism after Mormonism.
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Christopher Hitchens v. William Lane Craig - https://youtu.be/0tYm41hb48o (Many more great Hitchens debates will no doubt be suggested by YouTube - enjoy!)
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Website: siblingsinzion.com
Instagram: instagram.com/siblingsinzion
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@siblingsinzion
Theme Music: 'The Falls' by Umbrellaman - http://umbrellamanband.com
53 min - Your Cult or Mine?
In this third season premiere episode, the siblings discuss the recent documentaries on NXIVM: 'The Vow' and 'Seduced', the crimes of convicted leader Keith Raniere, and the parallels they draw with their experience inside and out of the The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints - especially Lisa's 18 months on a mission for the church and how she relates to the power dynamics as a woman with male leadership figures.
They also repeatedly mispronounce the name of Steven Hassen, author of 'Combatting Cult Mind Control'. Sorry, Steve.
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'The Vow' on HBO - hbo.com/the-vow
'Seduced' on Starz - https://starz.tv/3ojNnlX
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Website: siblingsinzion.com
Instagram: instagram.com/siblingsinzion
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@siblingsinzion
Theme Music: 'The Falls' by Umbrellaman - http://umbrellamanband.com
1 hr 15 min - Examining 'The Universal Christ'
In the second season finale: the siblings discuss passages and themes from the book 'The Universal Christ' by Richard Rohr. They compare this larger, more inclusive, more inviting and unifying view of the Christ with the one they grew up with, and those that seem to permeate the modern Christian population.
'If the overly personal (even sentimental) Jesus has shown itself to have severe limitations and problems, it is because this Jesus was also not universal. He became cozy and we lost the cosmic. History has clearly shown that worship of Jesus without worship of Christ invariably becomes a time- and culture-bound religion' - Richard Rohr
'I can't believe what you say, because I see what you do' - James Baldwin
Thank you for joining us this year. Talk to you in 2021!
With love - Brother Dan & Sister Lisa
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The Universal Christ by Richard Rohr: https://bit.ly/3lwu5YB
Latter-day Lesbian podcast - http://latterdaylesbian.org
Mormon Stories - Enjoying Christmas after a Mormon Faith Crisis - https://bit.ly/37YvrVJ
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Website: siblingsinzion.com
Instagram: instagram.com/siblingsinzion
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@siblingsinzion
Theme Music: 'The Falls' by Umbrellaman - http://umbrellamanband.com
48 min - Don't Lie to Me
The siblings read the first of Ezra Booth's letters, which were written following his short but notable membership in the LDS church in 1831. He was convinced of Joseph's prophetship after he witnessed what he considered a miraculous healing. However, after his expectations of further miraculous events and prophecies were unfulfilled, he quickly saw through the delusion he was under and sought to warn others of the deception he witnessed.
His story is an example of how one can find themselves needing to reluctantly but honestly face the facts and admit the truth of their misapprehension. This is unfortunately as relevant in our current political atmosphere as it was in the religious fervor of the 19th century.
This leads to a conversation about honesty, self-deception, cognitive dissonance, and the conundrum of attempting to live without lying. Sister Lisa provides examples she heard recently about the nature of lying, how more white matter in the brain can be an indication of ones ability to lie more effectively, and how honesty has become more important to her in her post-Mormon life.
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'Mormonism Unvailed', Signature Books - https://bit.ly/2LS6jaC
Elsa Johnson's healing - https://bit.ly/2J3nGEa
Radiolab story 'Deception' - https://bit.ly/3mzC6tq
'Lying' by Sam Harris - https://samharris.org/books/lying/
Latter-day Lesbian podcast - http://latterdaylesbian.org
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Website: siblingsinzion.com
Instagram: instagram.com/siblingsinzion
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@siblingsinzion
Theme Music: 'The Falls' by Umbrellaman - http://umbrellamanband.com
49 min - Choose Your Prophets Wisely
The siblings check in to share what they are grateful for, some very nice messages sent in by listeners, thoughts on the election, the NXIVM cult documentary series 'The Vow', fear of strangers, and the progress Lisa has made in her existential crisis by decreasing anger, increasing acceptance, and 'choosing new prophets'.
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Website: siblingsinzion.com
Instagram: instagram.com/siblingsinzion
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@siblingsinzion
Theme Music: 'The Falls' by Umbrellaman - http://umbrellamanband.com
50 min - The Denial of Death
The siblings discuss their reading of 'The Denial of Death' by Ernest Becker; how it contradicts their old Mormon understanding of an eternal self and how it informs the realistic understanding of the immediate, natural, fearful, fascinating, transient life in a human body.
'This is the terror: to have emerged from nothing, to have a name, consciousness of self, deep inner feelings, an excruciating inner yearning for life and self-expression -- and with all this yet to die. What kind of deity would create such a complex and fancy worm food?'
The Denial of Death (paperback) : https://bit.ly/3rw0z92
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Website: siblingsinzion.com
Instagram: instagram.com/siblingsinzion
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@siblingsinzion
Theme Music: 'The Falls' by Umbrellaman - http://umbrellamanband.com
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About Siblings in Zion
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Ex-Mormon siblings Brother Dan and Sister Lisa discuss Mormonism, LDS culture, religiosity, atheism, mortality, personal growth & the examined life.