Side by Side

Side by Side

By Annie Perdue-Olson & Heidi ZwartReligion & SpiritualityChristianity
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Side by Side episodes

  • You Are What You Think

    What do you tell yourself when you look in the mirror? How do you recover when you make a mistake? Are you at peace or war? Your inner dialogue matters and it’s the most important conversation you have every day. In today’s episode, Annie & Heidi, talk about how to stop the negative self-talk by noticing, naming, and reprogramming the messages in your mind.

    Additional Resources:

    • Download our FREE “Busy Leader’s Guide to Sticky Habits.”
    • For more about us and what we do, check out our website.
    • Related Episodes:

      What Busy Leaders Need Most

      Navigating Hard Seasons

      Managing Your Mindset

      When Your Emotions Leak

      Lead With Your Strengths

      Managing Triggers in Ministry

      Cutting Through the Mental Chaos

      21 min
    • Becoming a Conversational Leader

      Great conversational skills matter for every leader. Trust is built, however, by the experience you create in the middle of the conversation. In today’s episode, Annie Perdue-Olson is joined by Mary Verstraete of the Center for Coaching Excellence to talk about what it means to be a conversational leader, why it’s important and how we can do it.

      Additional Resources:

      • Download our FREE “Busy Leader’s Guide to Sticky Habits.”
      • For more about us and what we do, check out our website.

      • Related Episodes: Conversations that Matter

        Before You Say A Word: Part 1

        Before You Say A Word: Part 2

        Embracing the Leader You Are

        How to Encourage Others

        The Do’s and Don’ts of Zoom

        The Art of the Ask

        That’s a Great Question

        21 min
      • That's a Great Question

        People often come asking for advice to solve problems. What they really need is a guide to help them find their own answers. We can become facilitators of great questions that help draw out the solutions from within. In today’s episode, your hosts, Annie Perdue-Olson and Heidi Zwart, talk about having conversations that matter by getting better at asking questions.

        Additional Resources:

        • Download our FREE “Busy Leader’s Guide to Sticky Habits.”
        • For more about us and what we do, check out our website.
        • Related Episodes: Conversations that Matter

          Before You Say A Word: Part 1

          Before You Say A Word: Part 2

          Embracing the Leader You Are

          How to Encourage Others

          The Do’s and Don’ts of Zoom

          25 min
        • The Art of the Ask

          Churches and nonprofits run on volunteers. But serving goes beyond filling holes with bodies and it requires having the right conversations to find the right fit. How do you do this and why does it matter? In today’s episode, we talk to Christa Foss, the Hospitality & Connections Director, at a growing Twin Cities church about how to have “I see you conversations” that build a strong and committed volunteer culture others want to join.

          Additional Resources:

          • Download our FREE “Busy Leader’s Guide to Sticky Habits.”
          • For more about us and what we do, check out our website.


          • 31 min
          • The Do's & Don'ts of Zoom

            Like it or not, remote work and life is here to stay for awhile. While our future relationship with Zoom may look different than it does today, this technological platform has allowed us to stay connected to our work and one another. In today’s episode, Annie & Heidi, look at the do’s and don’ts of using remote technology to build relationships and have conversations that matter.

            Additional resources:

            • Download our FREE “Busy Leader’s Guide to Sticky Habits.”
            • For more about us and what we do, check out our website.
            • 27 min
            • How to Encourage Others

              Who needs a little encouragement when things get hard? If you are busy doing ministry, then encouragement can be hard to come by. Let’s shift mindsets and engage the conversations to bring Godly encouragement into the world. In this episode, we talk to Andrea Coli, Teaching Pastor at CrossWinds Church and Executive Director of Lead Bold! about the space and place every woman in ministry needs to be encouraged, equipped and challenged to do the work that God has called us to do.

              Links and resources:

              • Get conference and event information at https://www.leadingbold.org/
              • Follow Lead Bold! at @leadbold on Facebook and Instragram
              • Download our FREE “Busy Leader’s Guide to Sticky Habits.”
              • For more about us and what we do, check out our website.
              • 30 min
              • Embracing the Leader You Are

                As female leaders in ministry, we can sometimes negate relational or intuitive leadership strengths over strategic ones. Yet when we lead authentically with empathy and a soul care lens, we build strong relationships with our team and confidence in how God wired us. In this episode, we talk to Tami Stordahl, a 26 year ministry veteran, about leading from these strengths while caring for yourself in the daily demands of leadership.

                Links and resources:

                • Spiritual Disciples Handbook: Practices That Transform Us, Adele Calhoun
                • The Soul of Shame, Curt Thompson
                • Wholeheartedness, Chuck DeGrout
                • Solo: Creating Space with God, Stephen W. Smith & Peter M. Ivey
                • Podcast: Soul Care Conversations, Potters Inn
                • Download our FREE “Busy Leader’s Guide to Sticky Habits.”
                • For more about us and what we do, check out our website.
                • 28 min
                • Before You Say a Word - Pt 2

                  Last week launched Season 2: Conversations that Matter, with a 2-part episode talking about the difficult conversations that matter. We started the conversation with the preparation steps you need to take to lead yourself before you say a word. In this episode, co-hosts Annie Perdue-Olson & Heidi Zwart, dive into designing the conversation you know you need to have, but don’t know where to start.

                  Links and resources:

                  • Download our FREE “Busy Leader’s Guide to Sticky Habits.”
                  • For more about us and what we do, check out our website.
                  • Get more tips from Annie’s Ultimate Leader Guide: Six Strategies to Fix People Problems or Avoid Them Altogether
                  • Looking for something specific? Email us anytime!
                  • 19 min
                  • Before You Say a Word - Pt 1

                    Welcome to Season 2 of the Side by Side Podcast! Our theme for this season is “Conversations that Matter.” Being a great leader means attending to two things: leading self and leading others. Without great self-leadership, we’ll never lead others well. In this two-part episode, co-hosts Annie & Heidi talk about how to prepare for a difficult conversation by leading yourself well. With the right preparation steps, your difficult conversation might be easier than you think!

                    Links and resources:

                    • Download our FREE “Busy Leader’s Guide to Sticky Habits.”
                    • For more about us and what we do, check out our website.
                    • 17 min
                    • Honoring Your Body

                      Many of us likely made New Year's resolutions or commitments that involve our health. By now, many of us have probably already let our best intentions fall by the wayside. In this episode, we revisit the topic of physical health with certified health coach, Sarah Alves. We dive into why it's so important to love our body and take care of it for our emotional, spiritual, and spiritual health.

                      Links and resources:

                      • Atomic Habits, James Clear
                      • Download our FREE “Busy Leader’s Guide to Sticky Habits.”
                      • For more about us and what we do, check out our website.
                      • 31 min

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