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In this episode, I speak with Dr. Jess Schnell, DO MBA, who transitioned from Pediatric Emergency Medicine and hospital administration to utilization management. We talk about career longevity, deciding to transition away from clinical medicine, and dealing with burnout.

Articles and Resources We Discuss:
Gettel CJ, Courtney DM, Agrawal P, Madsen TE, Rothenberg C, Mills AM, Lall MD, Keim SM, Kraus CK, Ranney ML, Venkatesh AK. Emergency medicine physician workforce attrition differences by age and gender. Acad Emerg Med. 2023 Nov;30(11):1092-1100. doi: 10.1111/acem.14764. Epub 2023 Jun 23. PMID: 37313983; PMCID: PMC10973949.

Chen YW, Orlas C, Kim T, Chang DC, Kelleher CM. Workforce Attrition Among Male and Female Physicians Working in US Academic Hospitals, 2014-2019. JAMA Netw Open. 2023 Jul 3;6(7):e2323872. doi: 10.1001/jamanetworkopen.2023.23872. Erratum in: JAMA Netw Open. 2023 Sep 5;6(9):e2334513. doi: 10.1001/jamanetworkopen.2023.34513. PMID: 37459094; PMCID: PMC10352856.

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