Economics is considered science -- it’s supposed to be about empiricism, facts and data. But after so many economists missed the warning signs about the financial crisis, some critics have questioned whether something is fundamentally broken about the way economics is understood, taught and promoted in the political debate. On this episode, I talk to Rob Johnson, one of the most prominent o of those critics. He's the president of the Institute for New Economic Thinking, also known as INET. The group’s mission is, in part, to try to introduce new ideas into the stodgy world of economics.