You don't rise to your potential—you recover to it. Sleep isn't a luxury. It's a skill.

On this episode of WINNERS FIND A WAY, Trent M. Clark sits down with Mollie Eastman, founder of Sleep Is a Skill and host of one of the top sleep podcasts in the world, to tackle one of the most overlooked performance levers in leadership, entrepreneurship, and elite athletics: sleep and recovery.

From HRV and wearables to circadian rhythm, wake-ups at 3am, sleep anxiety, and data overload, this is a masterclass in how top performers actually win—by mastering the downshift.

This conversation isn't theory. It's practical, real-world, and immediately actionable.

About the Guest

Mollie Eastman is a leading voice in sleep optimization, founder of SleepIsASkill.com, and creator of the Sleep Obsessions newsletter. She works with entrepreneurs, Special Forces operators, high-stakes performers, and professional athletes to transform sleep from a liability into a competitive advantage.

Her work bridges cutting-edge science with practical implementation—without fragility, gimmicks, or excuses.

Key Topics Covered

• Why sleep is a trainable skill, not a genetic sentence
• The difference between stress vs. distress in performance
• HRV, wearables, and when data helps—or hurts
• The real reasons people wake up at 3–4am
• Circadian rhythm > night routines alone
• Why elite performers must master day mode vs. night mode
• How leaders unknowingly model poor recovery for their teams

Resources Mentioned

• Sleep Is a Skill – https://sleepisaskill.com
• Sleep Obsessions Newsletter
• Books:
  • The Power of the Downstate
  • Mind After Midnight
  • The Upside of Stress
• Tools & Concepts:
  • HRV Tracking
  • Oura Ring / WHOOP
  • Circadian Rhythm Intermittent Fasting
  • CBT-I & ACT-I approaches to insomnia

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https://www.youtube.com/@leadershipity

🎙️ Listen to the full episode here:

https://podcast.winnersfindaway.us/podcast

For information and a discount to Mollie's new course SLEEP IS A SKILL, please email [email protected] and mention the WINNERS FIND A WAY podcast or WFAW!

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