Ben looks at the cozy relationship between Ring and local law enforcement, Dave shares a story about a DNA tests and search warrants. Our listener on the line wonders about deleted emails. Our guest is Michael Chertoff, former US Secretary of Homeland Security, now head of the Chertoff Group.

Links to stories:

https://gizmodo.com/ring-gave-police-stats-about-users-who-said-no-to-law-e-1837713840

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/05/business/dna-database-search-warrant.html

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