This week, Eli is joined by comedian Caitlin Durante (The Bechdel Cast) to talk about a stomach ache that landed her in the hospital and eventually learning about sludge in her gallbladder. They talk about the extremely broken healthcare system, from ERs to insurance to specialist referrals, and how it's delaying the surgery she needs. Caitlin eventually developed the story into a limited podcast series, Sludge: An American Healthcare Story (@SludgePodcast).

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