Richard talks with Miranda Hill, the director of Homophonic, which is a Midsumma show of queer contemporary classical music.

Then he speaks with Declan Greene, director of Feather in the Web, which is a contemporary Australian play with a very unusual and challenging main character. Declan describes the play as "super fun and then then it's super not fun".

Finally Richard speaks with Tomas Parrish who plays the lead role in When the Light Leaves which is a play about assisted dying. If you find that topic challenging, you can stop the podcast at 30 minutes.