In this second interview in our multi-part series on "Where it all began", I sit down with the Founder and Chairman of the Smart Cities Council, Jesse Berst, to explore the organisations eight year journey, and where it all started. Jesse provides the context to why he founded the organisation, and what was happening in the market at the time. We touch on the major advancements for the smart cities movement in the last five years, and muse on the hills we are still yet to climb. Jesse reflects on the work and influence of the Council, and where its trajectory looks like heading. Join us as we look back, to look forward