IBI's Justin Lada is joined by Michael Cuva to rant about the serious talks the Indians had at the Winter Meetings about Francisco Lindor, Mike Clevinger, Corey Kluber, the impact that Boras Fest 2019 (AKA the Winter Meetings) had on the Indians roster. A few potential trade targets are bandied about and Justin and Michael spent a lot more time than anyone should have in a podcast about the Rule 5 draft.