What do s’mores and Taylor Swift have to do with standing out as a maverick? Join this week’s episode to find out as Shawn Nason talks with Billy Samoa Saleebey, CEO and co-founder of Podify, a podcast agency that provides production and promotion services to companies and individuals who want to create podcasts. Centered on human-obsessed business interactions, the two cover authentic conversations about going against the grain, asking the hard questions, embracing customer mindsets, and overcoming obstacles.

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