Smylie Kaufman has been to the greatest heights in golf—having played in the final group of the Masters alongside Jordan Spieth in 2016 and winning on the PGA Tour. His game also fell off dramatically, leading him down the path of broadcasting, which he’s now excelling in. Kaufman discusses his new career on TV, and what it’s like to cover close friends such as Justin Thomas and Jordan Spieth. Plus, he offers up some inside perspectives on LACC ahead of the U.S. Open after taking it low there with JT a few years back.

We also are joined by Vancouver Canucks head coach Rick Tocchet, a big golfer, to talk some Stanley Cup Finals ahead of Game 2 on TNT. Tocchet has some great stories playing with his good buddy Wayne Gretzky, who he just played Shadow Creek with.