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Joining us today, Mig, artist for SVS, Bored Ape Yacht Club, & Hall of Fame Goat Lodge. and Woof!

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Hey everyone. Welcome to the roadmap. Benzing. As new NFT show, we've had some great teams already interviewed in past episodes.

The teams behind pixel vault, art blocks, the Vogel collective robots, that dose pound only force crypto dads, dizzy dragons, sub doc, and more. We've also done an NFT giveaway. Stay tuned for future NFT giveaways coming soon. We've got a great show today. Sneaky vampire syndicate joins us to talk about their project and what's ahead.

This is the road. Hey guys. Yeah. As you heard me say, the roadmap Benzing as new NFT show, uh, airing Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Thursdays 2:00 PM. Eastern time. We've had some amazing interviews with some big teams and we have another one coming today. Let me bring on my cohost mass mass. It's been a long time, but it's great to see.

What's up Chris we're back, man. It's been forever. It's been forever. It has no shows last week, but the big news, of course, we're expanding. We've got three shows this week, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Um, so we've got some big interviews this week and I mean, man, we we've talked to some great teams, some projects with some big followings.

And of course today we have SVS on and they have a huge community, right? I mean, we're talking, uh, 45,000 followers on Twitter, over 38,000 in their discord. Uh, you know, looking forward to, to SBS today as. Exactly. Yeah. I'm a big fan of the project. I know we talked about it. We mentioned it before they meant it out.

Um, you know, how big the project could be. So it's great to see it come along in the last couple of weeks or so. Um, but yeah, man, I'm excited for this interview. I'm excited to be back. Let's get empties back and running. Yeah, definitely. I mean, this, this is a big one to talk about, but yeah, we have seen NFTs pull back a little bit, which we'll get into later with our news and headlines.

Also. I do see a comment in the chat from Randall about my mic. Thank you. I did just fix it. So I, it should sound better. I switched over to the right mix, so we should be good to go. Uh, before we bring on a team from SVS, I know let's bring on the team. So joining us on the show today, we have Wolf the lead developer, and we have MIG the artists behind SPS and also an artist from boredom yacht club and hall of fame goes welcome to the show guys.

What's going on, sir? Thanks for having us. Thank you for having us. It's a great, yeah, of course. I mean, what a cool project we've been talking about this one for a while, we talked about it with our Halloween NFT focused show once before, um, we got vampires now we got bats. So we got a lot to get into and of course get into, you know, what's ahead.

Right? We're always looking forward to the roadmap after all. It is the name of our show. But before we get into SVS, just wondering, you know, if a Wolf and Meg, if you guys can give us, you know, your history in the NFT space prior to this project, I'll start with you Wolf. Well, personally, I, um, my introduction and thesis it's been a while actually, but I've never made my.

But I've been involved in development of with like a software program and stuff like that too, for a decade now, um, crypto since 2014, but I, uh, I've always had this interest in salute in a decentralized programming because it's like this whole new, all new, um, experience because you have to make sure everything's secure.

Everything can be exploited, stuff like that. So, yeah, I've been, um, I've been buying entities like, like for a while now, just, uh, messing around with them. And, uh, personally I think it's more than just art. Um, I've also developed a ticketing system, for example, with NFTs. Um, so I think, and if these can be just more than AR and that's something I really want to go.

Perfect and MIG, you know, we know you as an artist for board ape yacht club and hall of fame goat. Can, can you tell us, you know, uh, what was your experience with NFTs before those projects and then talk about creating the art for those projects prior to SVS? Um, so prior to BC, I didn't even know what an NFC was.

Um, I've been a freelance illustrator for most of my life. Uh, so almost 20 years now, but, um, yeah, I had no idea what an NFT was. I didn't know, uh, anything about crypto. Uh, so it was only after, um, Basey started really taking off that, uh, I delved into it and, um, started reading up on NFTs and, uh, yeah. You know, uh, it kind of boggles the mind, how quickly things, uh, develop in the NFD space.

And, um, yeah, I guess, uh, so creating the artwork, uh it's uh, SVS is pretty much the first project, uh, worked on NFT project. I worked on where I had most, uh, the most control over what's being, uh, presented. Um, I mean the guys came up and I came to me with a list of traits and, uh, and they just, um, told me to do whatever I, you know, uh, just, uh, go wild.

Uh, they really didn't want to, um, You know, just, uh, hold me back. They just wanted me to go crazy with my imagination and yeah. Sort of came up with, but with, uh, with goat lodge and, um, Basey, I was on the more direction there. So, uh, yeah. Awesome. So Wolf talk to us, you know, how did the idea of SVS come to be and you know, how were you able to bring a well-known artists like MIG onto the team?

Yeah, so, um, initially the idea was to create an empty, uh, well, we didn't have the idea to create an empty, but, uh, the other team members are friends of mine for a couple of years already. And one of them introduced me to me and like the whole group. And then we, uh, cause we were thinking of making something crypto anywhere like a project.

And we were, we like building like everyone in my. My friend group is like, they, there, they have already had jobs in different businesses, different niches, stuff like that. Like community management, um, of course development. We have, um, we have two developers and a UX designer, like a full blown team. Like we've known them for years already.

And then we got introduced to me. Um, of course he's a great artist with a great track record. So we thought, oh, that that's a perfect combo with the team. We have to create something, something special and what makes it that he had full control over the creative aspect. That's something we really wanted to keep because we didn't want to limit his creative.

For example. So, so that was one of our main key points to focus on to just give me every possibility he wants to. And then he gave us like a couple sketches in the beginning and we select the one we all like liked the most. And that's how we started. We see. Perfect. So, Meg, I mean, you touched on the, the artwork a little bit and, you know, having more control versus prior projects, you were on.

Talk to us about, you know, the inspiration, the artwork here. Is this something that, you know, came to you immediately was that, you know, a trial and error process, um, how many different, uh, you know, uh, variations of the vampire did you come up with? Okay. Uh, I came up with about 12 different vampires that are presented to the team and, uh, eventually set along the one that you see now, but, uh, the inspiration for it, uh, I guess.

Um, Bruce, Tim is a huge inspiration. Uh he's he's the guy who created, uh, the Batman animated series in the nineties. Um, so basically just a goofy looking vampire that you would, uh, that goes well with like a Saturday morning cartoon, uh, yeah. That something goofy, not too serious. And, uh, hopefully something that appeals to a lot of people love that.

Um, so there was an SVS and eight, eight collab that launched on Monday for, you know, it at eight holders and SVS holders. Can you guys tell us a little bit more about that? You know, how the project came to be? And I know there's like a staking or burning mechanism behind it as well. Um, so yeah, a today is, um, we've been talking to him for a while and he's invested in our project.

Uh, he also has a whole nerd. He's like a good friend of ours. So you can say, um, Yeah. So the PR the idea between the collaboration with eight and eight is that, uh, we've dropped in a unique piece of art by me. And it's basically, uh, the sort of vampire model we use for our, um, profile pictures, but then also with a little bit of eight, eight style with it.

So he's like all about this magic stuff. Like, um, like there, the X stuff, like angels, like eight and eight, stuff like that. And then we dry, we basically made it so you can claim one of these per SVS, token, you hold and eight and eight Genesis token. And then we added a game fighting aspect where you basically, you can burn through them to go to next year and then there's rewards for the seven and eight.

So, um, so that's the entire collaboration is basically reborn two communities together this way, because they have to work together to get the 120. Love that. And if you get the 128, what is the reward? I think it's a, one of one drawing, if I'm correct. Or can you tell us a little more, more about that and sort of rewards is you, um, you basically have white lists for next generation.

Um, also you get access for the first aid to the top tier. I think it's that. And then you get access to the ADA Genesis group, like his inner circle group, where you get always, uh, collaborations. Like you can get them for free. And then also the one of one. Yeah, I think. And did we have some, yeah, I think that, was it the one of one, a white list and access to his gender Genesis inner circle.

Yeah. So I'm in the 8, 8, 8, uh, discord. And I saw that a couple of people from the SVS, they collapse, they joined forces to be able to death the 128. So that's cool to see the community come together and, you know, yeah, definitely not something we want to do because community is one of our biggest, uh, key points.

Love that. So Halloween just was over. So there was a contest derivative. Right. So can you guys tell us a little bit more about some of your favorite derivative derivatives that you saw of the SVS, uh, uh, drawings, um, made you pick those, right? Uh, yeah, I picked some of them. Uh, this one, we really love this one.

Uh, I mean, most of the, um, most of the, uh, competitions we've had have been just drawings, but this was special because it was a 3d sculpture by one of our community members. And we really love the effort that she took to bring this life look great. And the one to the left, uh, it just, I, uh, as an artist, I can see how much time and effort he put into this.

And he adds some new references yet. I think about 20 movie references in the. An actual picture. So it had to be in there. It had to be a winner for us. Yeah. That one's sick. Look at that. You got the little clown in the background. That's awesome. How does it feel to see, you know, a lot of, you know, the community drawing, you know, these pieces, uh, to you as an artist makes it's, uh, it's pretty mind blowing sometimes, uh, to think that people are doing all these derivatives of, uh, something I've created, uh, it D you know, always put a smile on my face, no matter how, how little effort went into it, or how much effort, uh, I get a kick out of it this year.

That's awesome. Um, so we, I was looking and I saw that you can stake your vampires and then you get the blood token. Can you guys tell us a little bit more about blood token, the utility behind it and how it benefits the SBS. Yeah. So the bot token will be, um, purely used for you to like it's a it's in our ecosystem.

Right? So, um, for example, in our next generation, we're going to introduce a breeding aspect. Well, we kind of call it breeding as that's the pros of putting two and two together and then getting something out of it, but it won't be exactly that. So blood will be heavily use there. Um, we'll have like an increasing cost whenever you breed with one, which is already brand, so we'll go up and like use it.

And then we also plan to have more, uh, in real life collaborations with blood. So you get access to that item, meaning a physical item with blood. So we have, we have one collaboration running right now, which is in progress. Uh, it takes a while to actually produce, but that's, uh, we've partnered with, uh, One of the biggest champagne creators or like most famous ones, like really good at it and stuff.

I am like skilled. Um, and we'll, we'll be giving access to that champagne through blood. So that's one of the things we want to provide. Um, well, it's, we're looking to do like merged for like bloods. You can get so emerged for free, if you could just use the butter into claim it, for example. That's awesome.

So I can essentially exchange my blood token from staking to get wine or apparel. Yeah, for example. Yeah. We're looking to do more, uh, fiscal collaborations, right. Ready have some stuff lined up, which will be in the later months. That's okay. Yeah. I love that. That's awesome. Awesome. Well, you know, one of the things that recently launched was you guys also did the bats.

So we have sneaky bat. This was a free mint for anyone who owned SVS, a Wolf, I'll start with you. You know, why was it important to do you know, a, a free meant here for holders of SDS? Well, I think we shouldn't charge any holder who is already bought an SVS or invested in the project. I think it's fair to do a free companion drop because that wasn't our roadmap always.

And it's a great way to give everyone another rare or not. So rare Coleman piece of art. And it's just fun to do, right, man. Tons of fun. MIG, talk to us about the, the artwork here, right? So not only did you get to develop the vampire, but you also got to develop this bat. Um, walk us through the process here on, you know, this cool free companion drop.

Um, I just wanted to create a sort of mini and or side kick for the vampire. Uh, yeah. I went through a few sketches to get it done, but, uh, I already knew in my mind that it was going to be a very, uh, like a mischievous kind of character, um, yeah, similar to, um, Dick dastardly and, uh, muddly, you know, um, Motley is this, this kind of, he's a sidekick to, uh, Dick dastardly, but he's, he's kind of mischievous on his own.

He doesn't always. And he's got that constant loft and I wanted to bring that kind of, uh, that kind of spirit, uh, into the bat. So yeah, that's the origin for, I guess. Awesome. Love that. Yeah. The old Hanna-Barbera cartoon reference there. Uh, you know, I remember watching that as a kid, definitely in my kids now are getting into that.

So love the reference there. Um, you know, we got into the roadmap a little bit, right? With the staking of the blood token, you know, there's also a call for a gen two breeding, uh, you know, a vampire hunt, a vampire meetup, uh, you know, with, uh, give us the background, you know, what can holders expect, uh, as part of the roadmap, uh, any timeline updates on gen two, maybe for us as well.

So of course we're doing the gen two, a mint, which will be. I dunno because of the current state of the market, we don't want to bring in their collection so fast. So we might look to delay that if needed and then we'll just try and create as much value for the Genesis collection. Of course. So we're looking to do gen two, which will then come with breeding, which will be after that.

Cause Meg has to draw the R we have to settle on, like while we're going to make as a result. Cause we don't want to do, uh, just a simple like baby vampire, stuff like that. So we want to do something cool. We can eventually do something with which makes, which makes for another grave roadmap item, for example.

Um, so. And then we're going to do gen two companions as the same way as our Genesis companions. We're planning to do a in real life meetups. Once you're more established, like the board app yacht club one, that was really cool to see that come into action. Um, and then we're going to do some, uh, of course they're going to keep our community contests running the art derivatives.

It's cool to see every what everyone does. And yeah, that's basically what we've planned right now. And obviously there's always stuff going around, which is not on the roadmap. So the champagne wasn't on the roadmap. We have that game in development, which was on the roadmap and yeah, there's more to come.

Meg, walk us through, you know, the, the gen two development process and what this means for, for you as an artist to, you know, have to create more artwork. Oh, a whole nother series. Uh, well, I actually can't say much just yet. Uh, uh, right now we're just formulating a lot of ideas, uh, gathering, um, info on what traits we want to do.

Uh, but, um, yeah, once, once I get going then perhaps the limo sneak peaks, but until then, I don't really want to say too much. I want to blow the surprise. That's perfect. Yeah. We always try to get stuff out, but we understand if we can't. So, uh, one of the things we, we do like to ask, and this can always be a tough question, right?

Cause it's like a, you know, picking your favorite kid is we talk about favorite traits, right? So, uh, going to the vampires, you know, uh, Wolf, I'll start with you, uh, cause it, maybe it's easier for you than the artist himself, uh, share with us, you know, what are some of your favorite traits for the SVS? Uh, So I think my favorite, um, well I have my own, well, I think the shadow skin's one of the coolest we've done, uh, personally, even though it's not the most rare.

And then I really liked the whole load glasses and the laser eyes, but, uh, this one doesn't have, you know, the whole low-class. I was one of the, one of the things where we had to move our generation process entirely because they wouldn't, uh, export properly. So now that I think that was like, uh, two days before we, um, revealed or drop the collection.

Oh, nice. Oh yeah. I, yeah, those are cool. Yeah. Perfect. And MIG, I mean, this, I don't know if this is a tough question for you. I'm assuming it is. Uh, but any favorite traits to call out, uh, for, for SDS here? Um, uh, I think. Uh, it's really hard to pick. I mean, those glosses that I did big, uh, those triangular glasses, uh, were from an anime called, uh, grew in Lygon, um, and, uh, really like the character to use those glasses.

And I love have, uh, being able to add that into SPS. Another cool one was that actually on, on the right there, the laser moth. Um, so one of our guys, uh, 2d van came up with some of the traits and one of them was a giant moth and, uh, so out of the giant moth. And then, um, I thought, you know, why not give it lasers too?

And so I put it on there and it, and it works

love that. Um, so one thing I wanted to touch on was community. So I kind of wanted to paraphrase this really quick about your guys's launch. So when you guys launched, people were able to mint three vampires, um, you know, you guys wanted to keep it as organic as possible and have the distribution spread as possible from the beginning.

Um, so immediately after you met your unique holder percentage was around 52%, right? So we've seen the community, you know, it's, it's, it's very spread out. There's not just big whales that own the project, you know, there's over 45, count Twitter, over 30 K on discord. Uh, how do you manage the community and what do you love about the community the most?

Um, well, we have a bunch of people who actually like active all day in our discord chat, which is amazing to see because people. They've genuinely like they started talking to each other in the DMS actually. So it's great to see people connect with each other, um, community manage wise. We have a team of malts to keep the chat in like intact, like, but the there's not really that much like need to moderate all than like spamming, like invite links, stuff like that.

Um, I think the community we have right now is actually really great. And it's one of our main, main success points I think, to have as engaging community. Absolutely. Uh, how active are both of you in the district? Well, personally, I've been really busy myself working on like everything around SVS, getting these partnerships and stuff.

But, uh, so I haven't been around this much in this good lately, but I used to be very active, but Meg is around daily to talk to people in the joints, this voice chats. Every, we have a voice chat with, um, with one of our community members who is really good at investing, for example, in play through end games like strategies.

And he does a talk every Tuesday to like talk about investment strategies and how it helping people out. So that's something really great, which just came from the community. And we really, uh, really like that because that's how the community is supposed to work. Like they build it, they build each other and help each other.

Yeah. Um, if you'll notice in a lot of the, um, NFT projects in the, in the discord, uh, a lot of the time the artist doesn't really interact with the. Uh, community members, you know, and I find that really weird, uh, and it could be a sign of a rug pool who knows, but, uh, yeah, I, I, I don't want to be a person that you can never contact.

You can never interact with. I'm just this presence that's there. I just did the artwork and that's it. I want to be a part of the community on a lo I love joking around with the people there love, hanging around, uh, listening to whatever they have to say. Um, and they really, the lifeblood of any project.

Uh, it doesn't matter what we do. Um, doesn't matter how many collabs, uh, we bring, uh, how many, how much new utility we bring to the project. If you don't have a strong community, then, uh, it's. Exactly. I love hearing that, man, because I've been in a lot of discourse where the team comes on, just when they want to show stuff to this, to see you guys active day in and day out, embraces the community.

And I know you do weekly AMS, which is super important, you know, I've been in cool cats, they do it every week and I see the community rile up from that. So I love to see that. Um, what do you guys think of the current discord hacks? You know, are you guys taking any precautions towards that? You know, we've seen a lot of that in the last week or so.

Oh yeah. Uh, from day one we have, um, we've locked. Our are down basically. So, but these hacks. Uh, I feel like they just, uh, they bribe one of, uh, members with some special permission. So a lot of these discords, they forgot, forget, like, um, make it sell malts cannot give people certain roles or announce in these general, like admin channels, like announcements, for example, where it looks really official.

Um, and they also forget to disable the create webhook permission, which allows you to send a message through a web hook through these channels as well. So from day one, we've basically locked everything down except for the admin admin members. And we've forced everyone with substantial permissions to enable to have a, so that way in case someone gets hacked by some sort of malware key logger, uh, unless they get bribe, but then they don't have permissions.

They can't do anything which will harm the community. Lots of see it, man. Yeah, it's been crazy. Couple of weeks, man. I've seen so many, discords get hacked. It's been crazy. Yeah. Uh, the, these, uh, people getting really sophisticated with the way they work. Uh, we actually will. Some people actually attempted the same thing on me, uh, first by, uh, getting me banned from the Basey discord.

Uh, and then, uh, they going to pretend that their staff from the, uh, basically discord and attempt to fix the situation. And, uh, they'll try to get you to go either click on something or, uh, go on a video call. And, uh, once you click on the video, you know, that's when you start getting fished or hacked or whatever.

Uh, so just a reminder for everyone to stay vigilant and not click on anything, uh, always use a hardware wallet, uh, yeah, just be cautious. Yeah, the suspicious definitely great warning out there from you guys. It looks like people calling out, uh, Freddy, uh, XXX Al in the chat. Um, so I'm guessing that's a member of the discord as well.

There. Uh, want to talk a little, uh, broadly here? Um, you know, you mentioned maybe delaying a gen two, depending on the state of the market. Uh, talk to us a little bit, you know, where do you see the NFT market headed? Right. We saw a huge demand. We saw this big wave and now we're starting to see a little bit of a pull back as you know, the theory and price goes up and the sheer volume of NFT projects increases.

So, uh, we'll, I'll, I'll start with you just overall thoughts on the NFT. So I think, um, yeah, of course, what you've noticed that the theorem price is going up as soon, like severely affected like the volume traded at empties as well. Because, uh, if you look at the gas, like constant it's, I haven't seen it drop under a hundred gray in the past week, past two weeks, maybe.

So it's really, you lose so much value by just purchasing any theory right now from the like total price. So it has massively like dropped the volume of sales as well, and people are trying to get out of course, because they want to write the w the way for the price increase because they think, oh, it's going to, let's say 10 grand.

So they're trying to get out. And then that drops the four pies of maybe like, I think I've seen every project go down so far. But, yeah. So I think the current state of the market, you ever, probably going to see some more downside if it keeps going and Bitcoin, of course, but I think eventually it will settle down and people, uh, reinvest their money in, in NFS because right now a lot of like good projects are like on a discount, definitely.

And MIG, any thoughts on the overall NFT market here? Uh, ever every project's flaw has taken a battering? Uh, yeah, like will said, uh, crypto is pumping right now. So, uh, and if these are down, but, uh, what, what you'll see is, um, the, the teams that are really dedicated to delivering on their roadmap and just continuing to push forward, those are the projects that will outlast them.

Uh, there's a lot of projects that come out every day and it's sad to say, but, uh, you know, 95, 90 8% of them, aren't going to make it. That's just the way it is. Uh, you need a good strong team to, uh, to just weather the storm and keep going. And that's what we're going to do. Perfect. And, you know, uh, on that note, you know, you mentioned that there are some projects, you know, trading at a discount and some that, you know, maybe you're fans of.

So we always like to ask, you know, towards the end of the interview, are there any, you know, NFTs that you own that you want to call out or projects that, you know, you really like, I'll start with you Wolf, um, you know, what NFT projects outside of SVS for you? Um, I don't really own that many other keys sleep is the one that I really like is Kinesis art.

It's one of these generative, uh, well, like program the arts. So it's like a. I think it's like our book, but it's a little different because they're all animated and stuff. And another one is EPO name. It's a, I don't know if you heard about that one. It was this, um, project where you put in any worn, for example, and then AI generates an image.

I think they used Google, like images, like the 10 search results and then merged them together by day AI. And the results of them are pretty crazy. So that's the two and a few porters. I am, uh, I have some of, and I look forward to seeing what they can do. Awesome. And then MIG, you know, as an artist, you mentioned you, you weren't into NFTs prior to, you know, doing the artwork.

Uh, now that you're fully into the space, you know, are there other projects that you, uh, collect or anything you'd like to call out in terms of artwork? Um, Hm. I actually still don't collect many NFTs. I only had, uh, three NFTs that I've purchased. And, um, this week I, I gave them away because, uh, the sheer amount of people getting hacked and scammed, uh, really annoyed me.

So, uh, I gave them away to, uh, people from our community just because why not? You know, uh, they lost everything. They, hopefully this little token will help get them back on their feet. Uh, so I don't have any, uh, I don't have any FTEs right now, but, uh, and I don't really pay too much attention to other projects.

I like to pay attention to the mistakes of other projects so we know what not to do, but, uh, if I were. To namedrop. Uh, I'd say I really like dead fellows. I'm enjoying artwork there. Um, yeah. So that's something that, that, yeah, it gets my sense. Yeah. No, that's fine. Not everyone, you know, collects all of them.

Uh, you're a pretty busy guy, Meg, so we understand it. Uh, yeah, I, I, I don't collect any, I don't even own any vamps. I don't have any bases. I don't have any goats. Uh, and my reasoning for that is, um, if I were to own a vampire, for example, that would, uh, effectively take away, uh, one person away from the community.

And I I'd rather have, uh, an active member of the community rather than owning about myself. And, uh, there's so many great people in the community that, uh, you know, who knows maybe that one person that joined the community because of. Um, may not owning a vampire. It turns out to be, uh, a celeb or someone who's really helpful to everyone or, yeah, just the overall good person.

Yeah, definitely. All right. Well, masse, I think we've got some, uh, questions here, um, from the chat and some followers of Benzinga. So I'll let you, uh, take it away. Absolutely. First of all, MIG, you are the people's champ, man. That is awesome. Uh, we have a question from Scott here, he's asking. So what are the steps that you guys would recommend to a new project to secure their discord?

Um, so first of all, make sure, like, except you like the admin role has permissions to access announcement and stuff like that. So most of you, this Corptax. Go to a moderator. I give them like 10 grand to get access to their account, maybe, or get some permissions to post in those channels. And they'll add everyone with, um, with a fake site to meet that project again, for example.

So that's recently what's been going on in a lot of your SIS scores and a lot of people are falling for that. So make sure nobody has access to any like substantial, official channel to post an except like maybe the team or like you only asked the owner of this score and make sure moderators don't have access to create web hooks or manage roles.

So that that's one of the, like the most steps you can take. And eventually when you're big enough, you, if you applied to discord as a discord or partner, it will force everyone to, to have a, um, so that that's another great, uh, step you can take eventually. Love that. Do you guys think some projects are taking bribes considering how frequent these are happening or is it just the same thing over and over that people are falling?

Well, it seems to be the same person I've been following this personal Twitter. Um, let me find his name. So he's, uh, yeah, his name is NFP herder and he posts these treads on these discord hangs and it seems to be the same person every time who's been fooling off these hacks recently and it's discord. So, so either they're falling for the same bribe, like the moderators or, or they're being hacked.

So by the same, like maybe a piece of malware, they click like a link. I don't know what the attack vector is here. Yeah. So, yeah. And it's really bad situation for the product as well because, uh, The the, your, your loose, so much trust in a team. If they, if people lose money to you through like a scam like that, if you don't like take time to properly secure to this cortisol.

Exactly. And MIGS, you said that you gave some NFTs away to some of the SVS community. Did some of them get hacked through other projects they were in? Um, I'm not sure. I don't really know the full details of what happened. Uh, I just, uh, I just felt really bad for them. So, uh, yeah, I, I just want to do a little something.

I don't have much. I'd just give them something to, uh, get them back on their feet. Yeah. Amazing. All right. Let's see, Chris, I think, is there more questions from the chat here? Yeah. So we've got this question from, uh, de-bone in the chat. Uh, what are some of the other pop culture, Easter eggs we can find in the SVS bat.

Um, usually I like to encourage people to just look at the artwork and discover for themselves. Yeah. I mean, when it comes to Easter eggs sometimes yeah. You can't give everything away. So maybe you can share maybe one thing to look for. Uh, one of my favorite traits from the bats was creating, uh, um, a Walkman, uh, that, uh, if you've seen guardians of the galaxy style load has a Walkman, uh, that it's super ancient.

And I wanted, I wanted something like that, uh, to be kind of a success of trait to the headphones that we have for the vampires. So I, I created a Walkman pretty much in inspired from stall loads. Walkman, but yeah, I couldn't use, we might get DMC aid by Sony or something, so I couldn't use the exact name.

I changed it to SVS walkout wing man instead. Perfect. Well, thanks for sharing that. De-bone, there's your answer. You, you might have to look for the rest, but look for that Walkman. Absolutely. So we have another question here from Scott, who wants to know, uh, for new people coming into the NMT space as investors or collectors, what's the best way for them to, uh, do research and find quality projects versus avoiding scams or quick cash grabs.

Um, so there's a couple of red flags of you see. So first of all, if I were to invest in your project, I would look at maybe like, um, like any of their like team members to see if they're well established. Of course. So, and maybe look at their website, maybe. So a lot of these ex like scams recently, um, they, um, they tend to just maintain and run off, for example.

So it's really hard in, and if these spaces is not as simple as like a, like, uh, like checking a crypto Rockpool. So for an NFC space, a lot of people jump, try to jump on the hive because it's this one-time event where you can buy in this NFT, like at a really low price. So a lot of people tend to not do like their research because the event is going to happen anyway.

And there's so many people getting in and you're trying to flip it. Um, but the thing is with NMT project, you're only gonna see whether it's a rug pool, like most definitely, or like in the future, because it's whether they're going to work on the project in the future or not. So it's, it's a bit harder to do here than in normal token.

For example, a token you're buying through. Yeah. And of course settling, it's going to selling, it's going to be harder because you can't just go through union swap incentive there, but you have to actually find a buyer. So that's another factor you can look at. Yeah. And I've seen projects, they sell out and then these devs, they go to another project and they launch it and another one and they repeat the cycle, they just sell out and just kind of leave the community, sell out, leave the community.

So it's interesting to see, hopefully we start taking more, you know, doing more research before just jumping onto the hype, you know? Yeah. It's a, it's the wild west out here. And, uh, yeah, I think what was said is, um, you should really, um, do some research on the team. Um, that's exactly what I did before I joined, uh, uh, the team.

Um, so before joining SVS, I was, I was screening a lot of, uh, Proposals to me. And, uh, a lot of people wanted me to join their project. And I, uh, one of the deciding factors of joining SVS was, uh, choosing the right team who had, uh, who were well-established, who had a good, uh, Twitter presence. And, um, just the team that could get the job done and I chose correctly and, uh, yeah, so always, uh, do a bit of research on, on the team members.

And, um, but other than that, uh, yeah, just always, always be cautious. Perfect. Well guys, you know, thanks so much for, for sharing insights into SVS what's to come and also, you know, just the advice for NFT, uh, people out there, right? That's something we really wanted to do with this show was bringing the interviews to talk about big projects, but also, you know, provide that education segment for people, maybe new to the NFT space.

And I definitely think we, we shared some education today via you guys in terms of what to look for in projects and also, you know, managing a discord. So shout out to both of you for that. But, you know, we look forward to following this progress, you know, it's far from over gen two coming, uh, you know, I'm really excited to, to see what that looks like.

So Wolf and MIG, thank you so much for taking time out of your busy schedules and joining us today. Thanks guys. It's a, it's been a pleasure to talk with you and, um, just, uh, share our knowledge on everything. We know about crypto and NFTs and, uh, yeah, just, uh, stay vigilant out there. It's the wild west. So keep that in mind.

Absolutely. Thank you guys so much for coming on. We appreciate you and the SBS community. You guys are awesome. Yeah. And we will love to have you guys back when, you know, it gets closer to the next event. So, uh, thank you both. It definitely will be back, I think. Yeah. Awesome. Awesome. Shout out to, to MIG and to Wolf for joining us today on the show, and also shout out to the SVS community, showing up in full force mass in the chat, some great questions there.

Um, you know, the question from Debo and of course about the Easter egg, um, you know, traits, I, I loved that loved hearing about the, the guardians of the galaxy reference there. Um, you know, I, I loved hearing about the artwork, um, right. So the inspiration, uh, you know, from some different cartoons. So this was a fun interview and a exciting project, uh, with a lot to come back.

Absolutely. Yeah. You know, it's great to see these authentic projects that are really here for the community and not just trying to, you know, cash, grab everything. You can see it in the way they represent themselves and make the artists who doesn't own any NFTs. Who'd rather, you know, give his SVS to someone else that can be a part of the community.

Um, really great guys, really great community. I'm excited for them. And I cannot wait to see the progression over the next couple of months. Yeah. Definitely. I can't even get all these comments up on the screen cause they're coming in fast. Um, only fangs also got a call out here, mass that we should come join one of the AMA.

So, uh, we might have to try to set that up with SBS. So let's mass. Uh, another great interview here. We got more great interviews coming up this week before we leave today. Um, let's get into some news and headlines, right? We didn't do a show last week. So we got a full week, but also we saw, you know, the NFT market, uh, trading a little bit slower.

Right? So, uh, we, we still have some big news out there though, but the thing we always like to start with brightest, the top 10 weekly sales volume leaders. So I do this article for Benzinga every Sunday and it's based on data from crypto slam, which tracks NFT sales via. So no surprise mass. I know you're not going to be surprised by this one.

Number one in sales volume last week, ACCE infinity, $113.2 million in sales volume, and then followed by crypto punk sport, a yacht club, and then a couple of projects on the wax block chain, which actually was a surprise farming, tales and farming world then followed by art blocks. We of course had, you know, a snow fro from art blacks on the show two weeks ago.

And then, uh, the one I want to talk about here though, eighth place last week up 125% in sales volume. Uh she's right. This was the project that launched using dose killer. Um, also known as leash, which is the second coin in the sheet. And ecosystem system, which we've seen, you know, S H I B the coin absolutely ripping.

So this was a 10,000 Ft project. It had a sliding scale for the, for the pricing mass. I don't know if you saw that the first 3000 for 0.1, ease the next 5,000 per 0.2 and the last 2000 for 0.3. And if you own the leash, you got early access to this, it sold out pretty fast. We saw high gas. But this was in mid-October and now the floor price on this project has, has ripped.

I mean, when I wrote about it, it was 1.7. Then I did an article. It was 1.9. And when I looked today, 2.25 east floor now on , um, and the top sales, we had two 50 east to sales. Um, if we can get those up on screen, the Batman and the iron man based shimbashi there it is right there, mass. Uh, that's pretty cool.

Did you know this project mass? And what do you think about a Shabbos she's here? You think? Because it's the first really one tied to, um, you know, the, the ship coin that it's getting all this attention, all of a sudden, you know, it's funny. I heard it. I didn't really look into it till right now. These are pretty cool.

And I do like the connection to the Sheba coin. Um, Yeah. I mean, it's holding its price fairly well. And as far as art goes, those are, they're pretty cute. They fit that PFP style. That's a trending right now. Um, I like them. Yeah. I mean, this should have been one where I think everyone could have predicted right.

As ship gets hot, it looks like this NFT project is going to follow along. So it's definitely on my watch list, uh, based on the strong community behind the coin. Absolutely. You know, so speaking of community and if T Fest, you know, it starting this week or this weekend it's been going on. So I don't know if you guys saw the board ape yacht club, they had an actual.

And, you know, the party looked really awesome. You know, people were partying on the yacht. It's great to see the community come together. Um, there's a couple of videos and pictures on Twitter and man, I have FOMO from it. It just, it just looks like a great time. It does, it looks like a full-on party. Right.

And I really, yeah. You know, I, I had some big FOMO mez, uh, you know, not being able to be there and we, we saw it, not just board apes, right. But a bunch of different MFT projects, you know, just really rallying around this, this event. Right. Bringing your community together, bringing your teams there to meet your community.

And then, yeah, I mean, who could forget the, the party on the yacht, right board, a yacht club, a full-on party on the yacht. Also, I saw some, uh, billboards, right? We always talk about, you know, the, the times square billboards, right. That costs a lot of money, but get a ton of eyeballs on them. We saw some NFTs featured on those billboards.

Um, I know our friends from robotics were actually on those billboards, uh, throughout the event. And I know that they traveled to New York as well. So, uh, there, there it is right there on the billboard, uh, shout out to the robotics. Okay. You know, I wonder if this starts scaling up to like a comic con style, you know, as the years go by, you know, people come with their communities, they represent, you know, the board apes or bottles, cool cats.

And it's just a cool time meeting people in real life when we just talk digitally every day. So I love saying it. Yeah. I think it definitely a trend to watch. The, the big question is, you know, will it be, you know, You know, for NFTs all together, will it be for one event at a time where we see some regional events as well?

Right. And that's something with Comicons as you kind of see them spread out throughout the country, you know, are the big cities like New York, uh, you know, big meeting places like Las Vegas, are those going to be the places, you know, to host these events, but exciting times, uh, for, for meetups and, and speaking of board eight yacht club mass, I don't know if you saw this, but it, you know, the cover of rolling stone, right?

We, we talked recently about cool cats getting a collaboration with time magazine. Now you have board ape yacht club on the cover of rolling stone. I mean, and a full featured article inside the magazine talking about this. If, if you're out there and you didn't think NFTs were mainstream yet, I mean, if you're a musician, you always dream about being on the cover of rolling stone and here you have now an NFTE on it.

What do you think is this is a sweet looking cover. I mean, it looks awesome straight up the board API cover, like the rock stars of the NFC world and this, you know, rolling stone cover kind of a embraces that I thought it was really cool. I love the cover. Um, I love seeing more people, you know, by apes, I saw a couple of rappers, you know, they made it their profile picture.

Um, so again, we see more and more celebs start buying these profile pictures and making it, you know, their identity. I think it's great. Definitely. So speaking of, you know, we talked a little bit earlier with SBS. Discord hacks. You know, there's been a lot of discord hacks, and I think we should talk about, you know, what to avoid.

You know, when these projects do get hacked by, you know, however they're getting hacked, you know, what's happening is they're posting a link and people are minting through a fake website and just sending them Eve and they're just rug polling. So, you know, what are, what are the best tips that we can recommend Chris, for people watching to avoid?

You know, these, these scams that are happening consistently now? Yeah. I mean, I really loved hearing from the SVS team, right? Talking about, you know, the, the discord safety. And I think the biggest thing, anyone who's been in discord for a while, you see the sheer volume of messages that you get sometimes, right?

And a lot of them are invite link spam, right? Where people need, you know, a certain number of invites to get on the white list of a project. Um, you know, those aren't necessarily a, you know, a. Right at someone, you know, most likely trying to get you to join a discord, but also remember that those links are coming from someone you've never met.

Um, so I would always caution that, you know, I would try to join a discord, find a community, and you can talk about upcoming projects there. And, you know, it's a lot safer rather than just clicking on links from people. Then the other big thing, you know, as, uh, Megan Wolf said, right, is that most of these projects, their announcement channel, right?

It's the one that's locked just to the admin and pay attention to that. Right. They're going to update and they're going to say, Hey, this is our mint date, right? This is when we're going to mint. If all of a sudden, you know, you're getting messages saying, Hey, minting is live. And it's three days before the project's supposed to mint.

That should be an immediate red flag. Right. Unless if it was a now. And you really know that that's true. It's not a stealth drop, right? This is someone looking for you to connect your wallet to that site. And, you know, unfortunately you could be a victim in this way, so I would stay away from the messages you get in discord and make sure you're following and know that it is the admins posting in announcement channels, um, to stay safe.

Absolutely. You know, and they try to get you to mint emotionally, right? They create this sort of FOMO of mint now, you know, stealth drop, you know, get right away. So you don't really think about it twice. And I've realized that now, especially since the market has been slower, is we should take our time when we mint.

We shouldn't just rush into things just because, you know, you get the sense of FOMO. It's okay to miss things, you know, especially considering the environment we're in, where, you know, there's so many scams going on on day to day basis. Take your time. Do your research. You know, there's always opportunities out there.

Don't ever feel like you're missing out because we've seen people. You know, a substantial amounts of Eve coming into the NFT world and imagine if they're new, they're more susceptible to it. And they may just have a bad experience and not come back, you know? Yeah. And that's the unfortunate part. Matt has you, you hit it right on the, on the head there at the end, right?

Is the most likely victims of this are the newer people. And with that being said, it could mean two things, either a they're probably don't have a ton of liquidity. Right. So if they mint out on one of these fake projects, they might not have money left to get into other projects. And then on the flip side, it also may turn them away from NFTs completely.

Right. I mean, if I got hacked, if I was victim, I mean, I might just not want to pay attention to NFTs anymore. Right. Because it's a, you know, an unsafe market, so it's important. And that's why we try to educate people on the show. Um, so great insights, you know, from us in the education, but also you heard it directly from a team today.

Right? So great segment there. Mass. I want to talk a little bit about some of the major brands, right? So we just mentioned, you know, rolling stone of course, having an NFT on their cover. But aside from that, we're seeing major brands actually launch NFTs now, and this is something that we thought was coming, you know, for months, right?

Some of these big media companies monetizing their intellectual property. So Disney announced a collaboration with ViiV right. They're going to launch NFTs from star wars, Pixar, Marvel, and Disney characters. Um, you know, on that leading mobile platform, we have Hasbro is launching power ranger at FTS, right?

Uh, capitalizing on that brand that they have. Mattel which owns hot wheels. They're launching hot wheels NFTs, right? Similar to Funko where you collect the digital, um, you know, the NFTs. And if you get a certain rarity, you actually get the physical version of the hot wheel as well, which is what Funko did.

Right? If you got the chase version, you get mail, they physical Funko that you can only get from the NFT collection. And then mass, we got news this week, that one of the largest companies, most well-known brands in the world. Right. McDonald's McDonald's is getting into the NFT game. There it is the MC rib NFT, and these are limited.

You can't just go and buy these. They started a sweepstakes, um, today through November 7th, where you can enter and only 10 people will be awarded this NFT. I'm going to go ahead and drop the article I wrote on this, in the chat. So if you're interested, um, you can see how you can possibly, uh, you know, when one of those NFTs also on screen, you can see right now the rules and how to enter, but mass, those are some big names, right?

Disney, Mattel, Hasbro. And now McDonald's, I mean, it looks like we are going to make it right. Absolutely. I love seeing it. And I definitely retweeted that post and shout. You know, if we win, I already told our chick, I'm taking her out to get my grips. So hopefully there you go. There's the cloud right there with the mic rib, NFT.

Think of all that you can do with that. I love that. Exactly. Um, so moving on, Chris, I don't know if you saw last week, there was a huge sale for a crypto punk. Um, there was a crypto punk that was purchased for $530 million last Thursday night. So this broke headlines on Twitter, right? So we saw that everyone was like, whoa, freaking out.

But crypto Twitter was quick to point out that the sale was from authentic crypto punk, 9, 9, 9, 9, 8. Uh, so yeah, they, they kind of pointed out that it was, they sold it to themselves. They were able to get alone. Uh, they paid it back right after the sale and it just kind of created, it made headlines and it created this new, all time high price for the crypto.

Uh, what do we think about that? Yeah, I mean, th this, I think is the unfortunate side of NFTs, right. And, you know, we see it in crypto. We see it in NFTs where there's always going to be talks about, you know, regulation. And I don't love seeing this cause I think it draws more attention to possibly getting regulation involved, which is one of the things that's been nice about, you know, NFTs, you know, being able to, to operate on their own.

But I mean, a huge red flag, right? That this was a record price of over 124,000 a theory. Um, when the previous record for crypto punks was 4,200 a theory, I mean, that's a huge jump. We've seen some records this year, but not of this level. Um, but on the flip side, We did see crypto punks trending on Twitter.

So we did get some attention to NFTs, but I think unfortunately it was the wrong kind of attention. Um, I just, I didn't love this a headline, a news. Cause again, I think it's a, a bigger negative for the space than I would've liked to see. Absolutely. Yeah. I saw a couple, you know, people on YouTube that don't normally talk about NFTs bringing us up and you know, they don't understand.

And if T's, and what they were saying is just kind of looks, it's a bad look, you know, from someone on the outside, looking in, I see it as a publicity stunt, they wanted people to talk about their specific punk. Um, but yeah, it's not a great look overall, but interestingly, the. Yeah. And then I actually see a comment here, uh, on that note from a TEALS peels in the chat, I did actually see this headline as well, mass, that there was a punk listed for 4.4 EAs, um, on a most likely fat finger.

Um, but that is another topic too. We saw this with board ape, where there was one sold for a significantly low price. And the question is, you know, is it a fat finger or is it a possible tax wash sale? So there's kind of this debate going on. What do you think of the low prices here? Is that a fat finger or is that a, a tax, uh, benefit here, man?

And it's just, it's hard to say, but I can see the benefits of, uh, you know, from a tax perspective, you know, you accidentally fat finger and someone else buys it. You know, we don't know who that someone else is. That's where the mystery lies. Um, I would hate it for it to be a fat finger cause that would really hurt.

I'm not sure, but both suck. Definitely. And then maths, uh, another interesting topic and we could probably go on this one for a long time too, but just, uh, for anyone out there who doesn't know, we saw the floor price of an NFT project, uh, get pretty much wiped out over the last 24 to 48 hours. And that is jungle freaks.

So this was a highly anticipated project. And one of the big reasons that people were drawn into this was that, uh, a former artist for hustler was behind the artwork for this project. And we also saw a lot of, uh, you know, celebrities and NFT, you know, influencers, let's say right rally behind this project before the mint.

So w the floor price went up a ton last night. It actually hits 0.15. Um, it looks like it's recovered a little bit to 0.3. But the reason was because decades ago, the artist who is attached to this project, uh, George, Tracy, , uh, he drew some rather, um, let's call them racist cartoons. Right. And I don't want to get into the debate of, you know, what makes a racist cartoon, but the, the debate I wanted to get into is, you know, how much influence one person can have on a project.

Um, you mentioned it a little bit during the interview, Matt, you know, when developers leap from one project to the next, what it can do to a floor price and the community. Right. Well, what about something like this, where now there is just a negative cloud over this project? Can it recover or can one person, you know, ultimately just, just do them an NFT, you know, It's I think we still see volatility in this project.

We'll see some highs and lows because there's just so much money to be made. And, you know, people can ski the, the, the, the, the narrative, however, it benefits them monetarily. Right? So I'm sure people holding this project, they're trying their best to, you know, damage control it. As soon as they salad, they may switch sides.

But I will say that I don't, you know, anything that's, you know, racist towards anything should be, it's something I don't mess with. So I personally will not, you know, touch that, but I do see, thank people will still, uh, take the opportunity to buy and sell this project. Yeah, that's, that's a great point.

Right? And it turns into a moral one. For some people I I'm with you, right. Where I just kind of want to distance myself from this project. I was never in it. Um, but you know, eh, here in the stock market world, we talk about buying the dip, right. And that's a term that passed on to cryptocurrency and now NFTs, and you could have bought the dip yesterday.

But again, I just don't know if this project is going to have lasting power now with this negativity and, and a lot of the NFT influencers that were involved with this project, they've also distanced themselves, which, you know, isn't a great look. So, uh, um, we, we wish the best for teams, but, you know, I just don't know if this one is going to have a, as bright of a future as originally predicted exactly.

You know, and the big thing with crypto and NFTs decentralized and, you know, kind of against cancel culture. You know, I do think that we all can all make the decision, whether we agree with it or not. I personally don't, I won't buy the project. I won't talk about the project, but you know, people are still free to do what they want, so we will see what happens.

But yeah, it's unfortunate. Always do your research is what I'll say. You know, you can figure it out, cause I'm sure if you Google the artists, you know, how quick was it to find that, you know, so people may have not looked because again, monetarily incentivized, I'm not sure, but always do your research. Um, and other news though, Chris, it theory I'm hit an all time high today, man.

It just keeps on pushing gas keeps going high. Oh man, what is going on? Yeah, I mean, we, we talked about this weeks ago, right? How a theory I'm hitting all time highs. Great. For anyone who's invested in a theory of bad for the NFT market. Right. And you heard Wolf and Meg talk about that too. Right? How, when the price of a theory goes up, you know, impacts the prices of NFTs, right?

Because the majority of them are based in ease. I think until a pullback happens in Eve, I think we're just going to kind of see this current NFTE cycle happening, right. Where people don't necessarily want to mint new projects and sacrifice their. When he could be headed to 5,000 sooner than later, uh, what do you think mass, you know, uh, how close are we to 5,000?

You know, and what does a pullback possibly mean for, for NFT? You know, for me personally, eat is eat for me still, you know, unless I plan to take profits Eve one eighth is one eighth. What I think the biggest problem is is the gas, right? The problem with the gas is that anytime you try to mint something, buy something, sell something, you're paying this enormous amount.

That's not going to the dev. That's not going to the team. It's just, you know, being paid in gas fees. And I think that's been such a big disruptor in the NFT market so far. I mean, we've seen gas stay at over a hundred for the last week and a half or so. Um, but I do hope that he does stabilize and again, we're seeing what's happening.

You know, we've never really been in this situation before. Hopefully eats stabilizes gas comes down a bit. Um, and then we can start seeing the real, you know, market demand for NFTE. Uh, when, when Eve two, man, we've been hearing about this for awhile for a long time, right? Yeah. The actually going to happen.

And, you know, with that being said in the high gas prices, mass, I think that's something where, again, some of these other coins and platforms, like if they could really launch a great project that can, you know, eliminate gas fees or lower them, now's the time to take a theory. I'm head-on because I think you could win some fans.

Um, you know, I prefer the east based NFTs cause that's where I've always been. But I know some of these other platforms, you know, have lower gas fees. Um, but man gas, gas is brutal out there. It is, man. I do hope that we see Eve too sometime. I mean she in the next hopefully year, um, but Eve is the place to be, you know, the reason we're all still here in the eighth world and that's the dominant factor it's because it's the place to be.

It's where the top artists top projects are. So hopefully we do find a solution for this, but congratulations to anybody holding a theory them for the last, I mean, I remember it was $600 last year, you know, about a year ago. So congratulations. It's a great time to be in the crypto space. Great time to be in the NFT space.

Uh, I'm excited for 2022, definitely. Well, mass. I love our community and our fans out here. I don't know if you saw this, uh, this comment here. Um, I'll just throw that up there on the screen again, not to start a debate about McDonald's, but a shout out to hacks in the chat for that great comment on the McRib NFT.

That's going to do it for today's show. And as I said, we we've got some great interviews lined up and we actually welcome back to Morrow and we're back a team that we've had on before. And I know there's some loyal fans out there. May I ask who's going to be on the roadmap tomorrow, tomorrow. That's a great point.

I'm actually not sure I haven't checked it. Who is going to be on, so we are welcoming back crypto dad, right? So the dad team, we saw moms, right. The free mint of moms. So we'll be able to talk about moms and also what's ahead on the roadmap. So a very exciting one looking forward to this one. I own a couple of dads and a couple of moms still.

Um, so I'm excited. Um, but I know we will have a lively chat like we did before. Oh, yeah, one of the best communities from the get-go. Um, I'm curious to hear their perspective now that we've been in somewhat of a bearish market for the last couple of weeks. So awesome. Well guys, that is going to do it for us today.

Again, we had the team from SV S on shout out to MIG and Wolf for joining us on the show. Great insight into their project, the artwork. I mean, one of the most well-known artists in the NFT space now in MIG, um, we also got to hear their thoughts on the NFT market overall, right. And discord safety. I thought that was very, very important.

We don't always get that behind the scenes from the teams. So shout out to them and shout out to all of you in the chat, or if you are listening, this is also available on podcast. Um, so shout out to anyone or, you know, listening to them. As a podcast, if you are, you know, let us know you can reach out at Benzinga.

Um, and we would love to hear from you if you are loving the podcast, but that is going to do it for us. We will be back 2:00 PM Eastern time tomorrow. And as I said, crypto dads back on the show. Uh, thanks everyone, and have a great rest of your day. See you guys tomorrow.

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